Burrow and Attacks of Opportunity [Archive] - Wizards Community

Burrow and Attacks of Opportunity [Archive] - Wizards Community

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bonelock
10-30-04, 09:27 AM I have a PC with the burrow special ability. Can I leave a threatened space using burrow without provoking attacks of opportunity? If I finish my movement in a threatened square do I provoke AoO?

Also, I cannot find rules for this method of movement in any of the core books. Can someone point me in the direction where I may find it?

TIA,

Bonelock
FineasBoggs
10-30-04, 12:00 PM The only listing for Burrow is in MMIII, but is limited as saying, "read the monster description." Since I don't think there are specifics for combat, I would use the miniatures rules instead.

http://webpages.charter.net/acamphuysen/manshoon_mage_sigil.gif
Inigo Carmine
10-30-04, 01:02 PM barring any statement to the contrary, I would treat it exactly the same as normal movement. If you move out of a threatened space while burrowing, it will draw an AoO (unless if was the first square of a withdraw action, or spring attack, etc.). I'm not sure if I'd allow a burrowing 5-ft step, but I wouldn't argue against someone who did.

Also, under that assumption, burrowing into a threatened square would not provoke an AoO.
tarkin
10-30-04, 01:37 PM Movement is movement.

Leaving a sqaure by any means short of teleportation causes an AoO if you move more than 5ft that round and are not using Withdrawal.

Entering a square does not provoke an AoO, under any circumstances.

So yes, you provoke upon leaving but don't upon entering when you burrow.
GoodTeletubby
10-31-04, 05:57 PM now the next question

do you threaten cubes that are underground?
Crazy Runner Guy
10-31-04, 06:33 PM do you threaten cubes that are underground?
Ahh, 3-dimensional combat.

I don't see how you could, as you would have no visual (unless you can see through dirt) way of knowing where someone is. And even if you threatened an area, could you really burrow fast enough to attack someone on a reactionary basis (which is what an AoO is, an attack based on your instant reaction to another action)?

I say no.
Inigo Carmine
10-31-04, 07:43 PM Anything underground has total cover to you (not to mention total concealment since you can't see it). You cannot make AoOs on anything with cover to you, or with total concealment.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
bonelock 10-30-04, 09:27 AM	I have a PC with the burrow special ability. Can I leave a threatened space using burrow without provoking attacks of opportunity? If I finish my movement in a threatened square do I provoke AoO? Also, I cannot find rules for this method of movement in any of the core books. Can someone point me in the direction where I may find it? TIA, Bonelock
FineasBoggs 10-30-04, 12:00 PM	The only listing for Burrow is in MMIII, but is limited as saying, "read the monster description." Since I don't think there are specifics for combat, I would use the miniatures rules instead. http://webpages.charter.net/acamphuysen/manshoon_mage_sigil.gif
Inigo Carmine 10-30-04, 01:02 PM	barring any statement to the contrary, I would treat it exactly the same as normal movement. If you move out of a threatened space while burrowing, it will draw an AoO (unless if was the first square of a withdraw action, or spring attack, etc.). I'm not sure if I'd allow a burrowing 5-ft step, but I wouldn't argue against someone who did. Also, under that assumption, burrowing into a threatened square would not provoke an AoO.
tarkin 10-30-04, 01:37 PM	Movement is movement. Leaving a sqaure by any means short of teleportation causes an AoO if you move more than 5ft that round and are not using Withdrawal. Entering a square does not provoke an AoO, under any circumstances. So yes, you provoke upon leaving but don't upon entering when you burrow.
GoodTeletubby 10-31-04, 05:57 PM	now the next question do you threaten cubes that are underground?
Crazy Runner Guy 10-31-04, 06:33 PM	do you threaten cubes that are underground? Ahh, 3-dimensional combat. I don't see how you could, as you would have no visual (unless you can see through dirt) way of knowing where someone is. And even if you threatened an area, could you really burrow fast enough to attack someone on a reactionary basis (which is what an AoO is, an attack based on your instant reaction to another action)? I say no.
Inigo Carmine 10-31-04, 07:43 PM	Anything underground has total cover to you (not to mention total concealment since you can't see it). You cannot make AoOs on anything with cover to you, or with total concealment.