Bypassing Fortification [Archive] - Wizards Community

Bypassing Fortification [Archive] - Wizards Community

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MattHawk
12-31-04, 01:57 PM Is there any way to suppress fortified armor to land a sneak attack? I suppose an antimagic field... but this is for an arcane trickster, and the sneak attacks are going to be with spells, so that's out :) Actually, on that subject - are ranged touch attacks subject to fortification in the first place? They ignore armor bonuses to AC, so it would seem as though the fortification wouldn't matter.
Pinky's brain
12-31-04, 02:13 PM A targeted dispel magic to surpress it for 1d4 rounds (DC24 though, has sucky odds of working) or disjunction.

Fortification is a force effect, so yeah it works on touch spells.
Someone
12-31-04, 02:13 PM Fortification won't stop the spell from hitting in the first place. But it could (possibly) stop the trickster from applying sneak attack damage to it.

As for overcoming it, there are only really 3 things to do:
1. Hope they don't make the roll. Not much help if its heavy fortification, which has a 100% chance.
2. Hit 'em while they aren't in the armor. Kinda hard once combat has already started, though a targeted dispel might supress the armor's magic.
3. Somehow ignore force effects. Not the easiest thing to do...
Aracor
12-31-04, 02:20 PM Definitely the best way is to either find a way to destroy or suppress the magic of their armor or shield. Once that's done, then the sneak attacks will work fine again.

~Aracor
Edymnion
12-31-04, 02:27 PM Yes, you gotta supress the enchantment. Fortification was specifically made to stop Sneak Attacks and Crits, so yeah, you're not going to be able to circumvent it easily.
Pinky's brain
12-31-04, 02:37 PM If you have quickdraw you could get a lot of spellstoring weapons made, put CL10 dispel magic in all of them and sunder his armor till fortification is surpressed.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
MattHawk 12-31-04, 01:57 PM	Is there any way to suppress fortified armor to land a sneak attack? I suppose an antimagic field... but this is for an arcane trickster, and the sneak attacks are going to be with spells, so that's out :) Actually, on that subject - are ranged touch attacks subject to fortification in the first place? They ignore armor bonuses to AC, so it would seem as though the fortification wouldn't matter.
Pinky's brain 12-31-04, 02:13 PM	A targeted dispel magic to surpress it for 1d4 rounds (DC24 though, has sucky odds of working) or disjunction. Fortification is a force effect, so yeah it works on touch spells.
Someone 12-31-04, 02:13 PM	Fortification won't stop the spell from hitting in the first place. But it could (possibly) stop the trickster from applying sneak attack damage to it. As for overcoming it, there are only really 3 things to do: 1. Hope they don't make the roll. Not much help if its heavy fortification, which has a 100% chance. 2. Hit 'em while they aren't in the armor. Kinda hard once combat has already started, though a targeted dispel might supress the armor's magic. 3. Somehow ignore force effects. Not the easiest thing to do...
Aracor 12-31-04, 02:20 PM	Definitely the best way is to either find a way to destroy or suppress the magic of their armor or shield. Once that's done, then the sneak attacks will work fine again. ~Aracor
Edymnion 12-31-04, 02:27 PM	Yes, you gotta supress the enchantment. Fortification was specifically made to stop Sneak Attacks and Crits, so yeah, you're not going to be able to circumvent it easily.
Pinky's brain 12-31-04, 02:37 PM	If you have quickdraw you could get a lot of spellstoring weapons made, put CL10 dispel magic in all of them and sunder his armor till fortification is surpressed.