Calculating the cost of Celestial Armor w/o the magic [Archive] - Wizards Community

Calculating the cost of Celestial Armor w/o the magic [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Arkenthras
02-06-06, 06:32 PM Hey everyone, as you probably know from reading the title of this thread, I am having difficulty calculating the cost of mundane Celestial Armor. I was trying to work the cost out backwards and I am not sure how to calculate the cost.

Since Celestial Armor is +3 chainmail that allows the user to fly once per day, does it have a command word ability or charges per day price adjustment? The reason I say command word ability is because the example given for the command word price adjustment is the "Cape of the mountebank," which can teleport the user once per day. The Celestial Armor says "it allows the wearer to use fly on command (as the spell) once per day," so I figure it is probably also a command word magical item.

Also, in the SRD and DMG the base price adjustment for charges per day is Divide by (5 divided by charges per day). I am not quite sure what this means. I don't know what to divide by 5/charges per day. Do you divide the cost of the spell as 50 charges by 5/charges per day?

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers this.
Esponer
02-06-06, 06:49 PM The following is not permissible by the rules...

Celestial Armor: This bright silver or gold +3 chainmail is so fine and light that it can be worn under normal clothing without betraying its presence. It has a maximum Dexterity bonus of +8, an armor check penalty of –2, and an arcane spell failure chance of 15%. It is considered light armor, weighs 20 pounds, and it allows the wearer to use fly on command (as the spell) once per day.

Faint transmutation [good]; CL 5th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, creator must be good, fly; Price 22,400 gp; Cost 12,550 gp + 1,004 XP.

Components
+3 Chainmail (9000gp)
Fly (CL 5) 1/day (CL 5 * SL 3 * 1800 * 1/5 = 5400gp)
Celestial Armour (x)

x = 22400 - 9000 - 5400 = 8000gp

Either fixed, or mark as a +1 bonus that's slightly overpriced. However, it may be appropriate to double-and-a-bit the cost for heavy armour, as per mithril.

Happy gaming, merry twinkery.
Arkenthras
02-07-06, 12:25 AM Thanks a bunch.

The reason I ask is because my new character (fighter got eaten :P) is a Paladin and has celestial roots (Aasimar), and thus I was checking to see how expensive it would be to have a family heirloom armor as starting equipment for a ECL 5 character. That is clearly too much since my DM doesn't like giving out items more than 3k per for ECL 5 characters (for good reason). My Paladin actually has 9 Dex, but I thought it would be neat to have a family heirloom piece of equipment (although it would probably be a lot more powerful/expensive than just mundane if it had been worn by a real celestial/half-celestial and passed down through generations).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Arkenthras 02-06-06, 06:32 PM	Hey everyone, as you probably know from reading the title of this thread, I am having difficulty calculating the cost of mundane Celestial Armor. I was trying to work the cost out backwards and I am not sure how to calculate the cost. Since Celestial Armor is +3 chainmail that allows the user to fly once per day, does it have a command word ability or charges per day price adjustment? The reason I say command word ability is because the example given for the command word price adjustment is the "Cape of the mountebank," which can teleport the user once per day. The Celestial Armor says "it allows the wearer to use fly on command (as the spell) once per day," so I figure it is probably also a command word magical item. Also, in the SRD and DMG the base price adjustment for charges per day is Divide by (5 divided by charges per day). I am not quite sure what this means. I don't know what to divide by 5/charges per day. Do you divide the cost of the spell as 50 charges by 5/charges per day? Thanks in advance to anyone who answers this.
Esponer 02-06-06, 06:49 PM	The following is not permissible by the rules... Celestial Armor: This bright silver or gold +3 chainmail is so fine and light that it can be worn under normal clothing without betraying its presence. It has a maximum Dexterity bonus of +8, an armor check penalty of –2, and an arcane spell failure chance of 15%. It is considered light armor, weighs 20 pounds, and it allows the wearer to use fly on command (as the spell) once per day. Faint transmutation [good]; CL 5th; Craft Magic Arms and Armor, creator must be good, fly; Price 22,400 gp; Cost 12,550 gp + 1,004 XP. Components +3 Chainmail (9000gp) Fly (CL 5) 1/day (CL 5 * SL 3 * 1800 * 1/5 = 5400gp) Celestial Armour (x) x = 22400 - 9000 - 5400 = 8000gp Either fixed, or mark as a +1 bonus that's slightly overpriced. However, it may be appropriate to double-and-a-bit the cost for heavy armour, as per mithril. Happy gaming, merry twinkery.
Arkenthras 02-07-06, 12:25 AM	Thanks a bunch. The reason I ask is because my new character (fighter got eaten :P) is a Paladin and has celestial roots (Aasimar), and thus I was checking to see how expensive it would be to have a family heirloom armor as starting equipment for a ECL 5 character. That is clearly too much since my DM doesn't like giving out items more than 3k per for ECL 5 characters (for good reason). My Paladin actually has 9 Dex, but I thought it would be neat to have a family heirloom piece of equipment (although it would probably be a lot more powerful/expensive than just mundane if it had been worn by a real celestial/half-celestial and passed down through generations).