can you enhance specific magic weapons/armor? [Archive] - Wizards Community

can you enhance specific magic weapons/armor? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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irzg9zh3psgq3m09
03-17-06, 11:04 PM Can you, lets say, take a Holy Avenger and make it vorporal? Or add a fortification bonus to Celestial Armor? Or are specific magic weapons and armor unchangeable?
draconic_swine
03-18-06, 11:32 AM Tough question. I'd say no. With their variable abilities and properties that aren't outlined among the special abilities of "regular" magic weapons, I'd say they're more akin to artifacts or wondrous items than magic weapons. And I don't think there's much argument over whether you can further enhance a wondrous item :P
Fighter1
03-18-06, 12:03 PM Tough question. I'd say no. With their variable abilities and properties that aren't outlined among the special abilities of "regular" magic weapons, I'd say they're more akin to artifacts or wondrous items than magic weapons. And I don't think there's much argument over whether you can further enhance a wondrous item :P

But you can calc out how those specific items are priced; so I'd say yes - keeping in mind that costs stack.
irzg9zh3psgq3m09
03-18-06, 01:49 PM At first I thought no, since they're specific and have special qualities. But then I thought, they're still created weapons, and you can always alter whatever you create. I'm saying no for now, but I'm not definite about it.
supernerd8916
03-18-06, 02:04 PM i dont see any reason why not. no matter how much they are like artifacts, they are magic weapons. i still probably wouldnt allow, givin how tough it would be to calculate the price. too much work. but if some one comes up with a system, it is viable to change them
Mitchell
03-19-06, 12:30 AM As long as the total modified bonus was less than +10, sure.
Some of those things are hard to figure out, though. It comes down to guesswork.
I would say that a vorpal holy avenger would exceed +10, so I wouldn't allow that until the epic levels. Other weapons may be different, but then it also depends on what enhancement that you want to add.
There is no logical reason that someone couldn't add a "mundane" enhancement to these weapons, it's just mechanical, and +10 is the ceiling.
Psifon
03-19-06, 01:33 AM I would say yes, and in fact, I would say that other than the specific "+" enhancments of the weapon, everything about the weapon was just a flat GP outlay. Kind of like Elemental Resistance on armor, you just pay that flat price for the effect.

You want a Vorpal Holy Sword, I'd say go for it. God knows D&D has a LOOOONG history of such weapons.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
irzg9zh3psgq3m09 03-17-06, 11:04 PM	Can you, lets say, take a Holy Avenger and make it vorporal? Or add a fortification bonus to Celestial Armor? Or are specific magic weapons and armor unchangeable?
draconic_swine 03-18-06, 11:32 AM	Tough question. I'd say no. With their variable abilities and properties that aren't outlined among the special abilities of "regular" magic weapons, I'd say they're more akin to artifacts or wondrous items than magic weapons. And I don't think there's much argument over whether you can further enhance a wondrous item :P
Fighter1 03-18-06, 12:03 PM	Tough question. I'd say no. With their variable abilities and properties that aren't outlined among the special abilities of "regular" magic weapons, I'd say they're more akin to artifacts or wondrous items than magic weapons. And I don't think there's much argument over whether you can further enhance a wondrous item :P But you can calc out how those specific items are priced; so I'd say yes - keeping in mind that costs stack.
irzg9zh3psgq3m09 03-18-06, 01:49 PM	At first I thought no, since they're specific and have special qualities. But then I thought, they're still created weapons, and you can always alter whatever you create. I'm saying no for now, but I'm not definite about it.
supernerd8916 03-18-06, 02:04 PM	i dont see any reason why not. no matter how much they are like artifacts, they are magic weapons. i still probably wouldnt allow, givin how tough it would be to calculate the price. too much work. but if some one comes up with a system, it is viable to change them
Mitchell 03-19-06, 12:30 AM	As long as the total modified bonus was less than +10, sure. Some of those things are hard to figure out, though. It comes down to guesswork. I would say that a vorpal holy avenger would exceed +10, so I wouldn't allow that until the epic levels. Other weapons may be different, but then it also depends on what enhancement that you want to add. There is no logical reason that someone couldn't add a "mundane" enhancement to these weapons, it's just mechanical, and +10 is the ceiling.
Psifon 03-19-06, 01:33 AM	I would say yes, and in fact, I would say that other than the specific "+" enhancments of the weapon, everything about the weapon was just a flat GP outlay. Kind of like Elemental Resistance on armor, you just pay that flat price for the effect. You want a Vorpal Holy Sword, I'd say go for it. God knows D&D has a LOOOONG history of such weapons.