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Untamed_Soul 08-20-06, 06:18 PM	Had a couple of questions and have not found the answers in any of my core books. Just wondering, what is the capacity of a quiver? Also, I couldn't find a quiver in the equipment list, is it just assumed if you buy 20 arrows that you automatically have a quiver? Also, I know there is a way to cut down weight of armor by buying mithral, but is there a way to cut down the weight of a weapon? Thanks for any help.
Fallenangel359 08-20-06, 06:33 PM	Well you have to realize that in many circumstances, reducing the weight of a weapon will drastically reduce its effectiveness I hit you with a 1lb greatsword? Doesn't quite seem right does it?
RavenDrake 08-20-06, 08:39 PM	Generally speaking it's assumed that the cost of a quiver is included in the base price of a bundle of 20 arrows(it says so in the arrow's weapon description). Yes you can reduce the weight of a mostly steel(or iron) weapon by making it out of mithral. And it has no "official" game effects whatsoever outisde of reduceing the weight of the weapon. It's probably the only way to reduce the base weight of the weapon in RAW instead of dealing with that weight by other means(Bag of Holding, Efficient Quiver, Handy Haversack, etc.).
clannagh 08-20-06, 08:46 PM	Had a couple of questions and have not found the answers in any of my core books. Just wondering, what is the capacity of a quiver? Also, I couldn't find a quiver in the equipment list, is it just assumed if you buy 20 arrows that you automatically have a quiver? Also, I know there is a way to cut down weight of armor by buying mithral, but is there a way to cut down the weight of a weapon? Thanks for any help. I assume you are talking about ranged weapons. The Quiver of Ehlonna from the DMG is a very good thing. The Evencraftbow can save wieght by eliminating the need for a separate melee weapon. There also seems no reason you could not make a longbow and your arrows out of darkwood.
Artector 08-20-06, 08:47 PM	I'd have to check but I believe 1 or 2 of the eberron special materials reduces the weight of weapons.
clannagh 08-20-06, 09:04 PM	From SRD .. check your DMG for more details " An item made from mithral weighs half as much as the same item made from other metals. In the case of weapons, this lighter weight does not change a weapon’s size category or the ease with which it can be wielded (whether it is light, one-handed, or two-handed). Items not primarily of metal are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of mithral. (A longsword can be a mithral weapon, while a scythe cannot be.) " "Any wooden or mostly wooden item (such as a bow, an arrow, or a spear) made from darkwood is considered a masterwork item and weighs only half as much as a normal wooden item of that type. Items not normally made of wood or only partially of wood (such as a battleaxe or a mace) either cannot be made from darkwood or do not gain any special benefit from being made of darkwood."
Mitchell 08-20-06, 11:28 PM	From SRD .. check your DMG for more details " An item made from mithral weighs half as much as the same item made from other metals. In the case of weapons, this lighter weight does not change a weapon’s size category or the ease with which it can be wielded (whether it is light, one-handed, or two-handed). Items not primarily of metal are not meaningfully affected by being partially made of mithral. (A longsword can be a mithral weapon, while a scythe cannot be.) " "Any wooden or mostly wooden item (such as a bow, an arrow, or a spear) made from darkwood is considered a masterwork item and weighs only half as much as a normal wooden item of that type. Items not normally made of wood or only partially of wood (such as a battleaxe or a mace) either cannot be made from darkwood or do not gain any special benefit from being made of darkwood." Which means that any weapon with metal and wood can't have either special material used. I would rule (or argue with my DM for the rule) that both special materials could be used to produce the desired effect. The cost may be a little bit harder to figure, but just using a 50/50 split (half the weight of the weapon is metal (use to determine mithral cost) while the other half is wood (use to determine darkwood cost)) should work reasonably well for all the weapons in question.