Caster Level Boost? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Caster Level Boost? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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mtrpcic
11-30-07, 01:22 AM Does anyone know of any items that boost Caster Level? I'm planning on focusing on being a Summoner, so a higher caster level means less chance of that demon making its Will save.

Thanks in advance.
celestialkin
11-30-07, 01:29 AM Is there anything which would boost a manifester's lever?
Mesiolan
11-30-07, 01:54 AM Ways to boost caster or manifester level

Orange Ion stone (+1 CL, DMG)
Archmage can take +1 to CL (PrC, DMG)
divine casters can take prayer bead of karma (short time +4 to CL, DMG)
divine casters can take divine spellpower feat (random in-/decrease of CL, ComplDiv)
manifesters can take overchannel feat (+1 or more to ML, but take damage in return; XPH)
wilders have wild surge (+1 or more to ML, but chance for drained; XPH)
multiclass casters can take Practiced Caster or Manifester feat (+1 to +4 to caster level, but capped to actual character level or HD; CompArc and CompPSi)
many cleric domains treat the Cle as +1 to CL for domain spells (healing, good, evil...)

That is from the top of my head.

To get a better summoner, you should look into the thaumaturge PrC, the feats Augment Summoning, and Spell Focus.
RobbyPants
11-30-07, 10:07 AM I don't know how much of your build is already planned out, but there's a demonologist PrC in the BoVD. It's not a particularly powerful PrC, but as you mentioned controling demons, the flavor might be perfect.

I don't know that they get any cast level increases, but they do get the ability to use a given summon monster spell and treat it as one or two spell levels higher for the purposes of demons and CE fiends. For example, if you cast Summon Monster III, you can use the 3rd level slot to summon a demon or CE fiend from the Summon Monster V list.

Just a thought, although it might not work with the character you have or planned.
risner
11-30-07, 10:10 AM Does anyone know of any items that boost Caster Level? I'm planning on focusing on being a Summoner, so a higher caster level means less chance of that demon making its Will save.

Thanks in advance.

Did you check the "improving caster level" thread?

It will have everything in this thread plus 100 more.
NoldorForce
11-30-07, 11:31 AM Did you check the "improving caster level" thread?

It will have everything in this thread plus 100 more.Precisely true - there are many, many things listed there.

Good thing I have it bookmarked (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=615672), eh?
StevenO
11-30-07, 02:07 PM I don't think Caster Level will do anything for toward the actual WILL Save needed to grab a creature although it does help prevent its escape.

There may be better ways of getting a high caster level but the method I've seen to get the highests general caster level is by using the Ultimate Magus and Wild Mage. If you follow the optimize UM build and eventually take Practiced Spellcaster (Wizard) you'll get a wizard CL at your HD +4 which is the UM bonus. Using Wild Magic from the Wild Mage gets you another (+1d6 -3) but even losing two CL to your spontaneous class you should never take the hit but will gain a CL increase half the time. Using this you can get a CL 24-27 for your "primary" class and 15-20 for your "secondary" casting type. Since this only takes one level of Wild Mage you'd still have four levels for other potential CL boosting classes.
risner
11-30-07, 05:46 PM Good thing I have it bookmarked (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=615672), eh?

Yeah, but I don't use book marks, I just google them by putting "raising caster level" in google and clicking "i'm feeling lucky"
;-)
mvincent
11-30-07, 06:05 PM Ways to boost caster or manifester level

Orange Ion stone (+1 CL, DMG)
Archmage can take +1 to CL (PrC, DMG)
divine casters can take prayer bead of karma (short time +4 to CL, DMG)
divine casters can take divine spellpower feat (random in-/decrease of CL, ComplDiv)
manifesters can take overchannel feat (+1 or more to ML, but take damage in return; XPH)
wilders have wild surge (+1 or more to ML, but chance for drained; XPH)
multiclass casters can take Practiced Caster or Manifester feat (+1 to +4 to caster level, but capped to actual character level or HD; CompArc and CompPSi)
many cleric domains treat the Cle as +1 to CL for domain spells (healing, good, evil...)

That is from the top of my head.From the SRD I get:
1) Orange Ioun stone
2) Prayer Bead of Karma
3) Incense of invocation
4) Death knell spell
5) Archmage's Spell Power ability
6) Hierophant's spell power ability
7) Cleric's domain spells (healing, good, evil...)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
mtrpcic 11-30-07, 01:22 AM	Does anyone know of any items that boost Caster Level? I'm planning on focusing on being a Summoner, so a higher caster level means less chance of that demon making its Will save. Thanks in advance.
celestialkin 11-30-07, 01:29 AM	Is there anything which would boost a manifester's lever?
Mesiolan 11-30-07, 01:54 AM	Ways to boost caster or manifester level Orange Ion stone (+1 CL, DMG) Archmage can take +1 to CL (PrC, DMG) divine casters can take prayer bead of karma (short time +4 to CL, DMG) divine casters can take divine spellpower feat (random in-/decrease of CL, ComplDiv) manifesters can take overchannel feat (+1 or more to ML, but take damage in return; XPH) wilders have wild surge (+1 or more to ML, but chance for drained; XPH) multiclass casters can take Practiced Caster or Manifester feat (+1 to +4 to caster level, but capped to actual character level or HD; CompArc and CompPSi) many cleric domains treat the Cle as +1 to CL for domain spells (healing, good, evil...) That is from the top of my head. To get a better summoner, you should look into the thaumaturge PrC, the feats Augment Summoning, and Spell Focus.
RobbyPants 11-30-07, 10:07 AM	I don't know how much of your build is already planned out, but there's a demonologist PrC in the BoVD. It's not a particularly powerful PrC, but as you mentioned controling demons, the flavor might be perfect. I don't know that they get any cast level increases, but they do get the ability to use a given summon monster spell and treat it as one or two spell levels higher for the purposes of demons and CE fiends. For example, if you cast Summon Monster III, you can use the 3rd level slot to summon a demon or CE fiend from the Summon Monster V list. Just a thought, although it might not work with the character you have or planned.
risner 11-30-07, 10:10 AM	Does anyone know of any items that boost Caster Level? I'm planning on focusing on being a Summoner, so a higher caster level means less chance of that demon making its Will save. Thanks in advance. Did you check the "improving caster level" thread? It will have everything in this thread plus 100 more.
NoldorForce 11-30-07, 11:31 AM	Did you check the "improving caster level" thread? It will have everything in this thread plus 100 more.Precisely true - there are many, many things listed there. Good thing I have it bookmarked (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=615672), eh?
StevenO 11-30-07, 02:07 PM	I don't think Caster Level will do anything for toward the actual WILL Save needed to grab a creature although it does help prevent its escape. There may be better ways of getting a high caster level but the method I've seen to get the highests general caster level is by using the Ultimate Magus and Wild Mage. If you follow the optimize UM build and eventually take Practiced Spellcaster (Wizard) you'll get a wizard CL at your HD +4 which is the UM bonus. Using Wild Magic from the Wild Mage gets you another (+1d6 -3) but even losing two CL to your spontaneous class you should never take the hit but will gain a CL increase half the time. Using this you can get a CL 24-27 for your "primary" class and 15-20 for your "secondary" casting type. Since this only takes one level of Wild Mage you'd still have four levels for other potential CL boosting classes.
risner 11-30-07, 05:46 PM	Good thing I have it bookmarked (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=615672), eh? Yeah, but I don't use book marks, I just google them by putting "raising caster level" in google and clicking "i'm feeling lucky" ;-)
mvincent 11-30-07, 06:05 PM	Ways to boost caster or manifester level Orange Ion stone (+1 CL, DMG) Archmage can take +1 to CL (PrC, DMG) divine casters can take prayer bead of karma (short time +4 to CL, DMG) divine casters can take divine spellpower feat (random in-/decrease of CL, ComplDiv) manifesters can take overchannel feat (+1 or more to ML, but take damage in return; XPH) wilders have wild surge (+1 or more to ML, but chance for drained; XPH) multiclass casters can take Practiced Caster or Manifester feat (+1 to +4 to caster level, but capped to actual character level or HD; CompArc and CompPSi) many cleric domains treat the Cle as +1 to CL for domain spells (healing, good, evil...) That is from the top of my head.From the SRD I get: 1) Orange Ioun stone 2) Prayer Bead of Karma 3) Incense of invocation 4) Death knell spell 5) Archmage's Spell Power ability 6) Hierophant's spell power ability 7) Cleric's domain spells (healing, good, evil...)