Charge + Bull Rush [Archive] - Wizards Community

Charge + Bull Rush [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Thale
01-30-07, 02:21 PM Combat related question:

Charge is defined as a full-round action that allows you to 2x movement with an attack at the end (+2 attack, -2 AC). The description of Bull Rush says you are allowed to perform this action as part of a charge.

If I read the rules correctly, this means that I can effectively take a double move towards an enemy, make an attack, and then make a Bull Rush attempt. Is this correct? Or do I have to substitute the attack from the Charge with the Bull Rush attempt?

The errata explicitly correct the Overrun entry by saying you can't make an Overrun attempt as part of a Charge, but I don't believe there is any such statement about Charge and Bull Rush together (as far as I know).
Vegepygmy
01-30-07, 02:33 PM If I read the rules correctly, this means that I can effectively take a double move towards an enemy, make an attack, and then make a Bull Rush attempt. Is this correct? Or do I have to substitute the attack from the Charge with the Bull Rush attempt?The Bull Rush is your attack made as part of your Charge (so yes, you "substitute" it).

Bull Rushing as part of a charge is 100% OK, unlike Overrunning.
Inigo Carmine
01-30-07, 02:35 PM You don't get to make an attack when you Bullrush. It replaces the attack at the end of the charge, similar to how you replace an attack with a disarm, trip or grapple attempt.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Thale 01-30-07, 02:21 PM	Combat related question: Charge is defined as a full-round action that allows you to 2x movement with an attack at the end (+2 attack, -2 AC). The description of Bull Rush says you are allowed to perform this action as part of a charge. If I read the rules correctly, this means that I can effectively take a double move towards an enemy, make an attack, and then make a Bull Rush attempt. Is this correct? Or do I have to substitute the attack from the Charge with the Bull Rush attempt? The errata explicitly correct the Overrun entry by saying you can't make an Overrun attempt as part of a Charge, but I don't believe there is any such statement about Charge and Bull Rush together (as far as I know).
Vegepygmy 01-30-07, 02:33 PM	If I read the rules correctly, this means that I can effectively take a double move towards an enemy, make an attack, and then make a Bull Rush attempt. Is this correct? Or do I have to substitute the attack from the Charge with the Bull Rush attempt?The Bull Rush is your attack made as part of your Charge (so yes, you "substitute" it). Bull Rushing as part of a charge is 100% OK, unlike Overrunning.
Inigo Carmine 01-30-07, 02:35 PM	You don't get to make an attack when you Bullrush. It replaces the attack at the end of the charge, similar to how you replace an attack with a disarm, trip or grapple attempt.