Charge, Hold the Line, and Reach [Archive] - Wizards Community

Charge, Hold the Line, and Reach [Archive] - Wizards Community

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JonahBlack
09-23-04, 11:39 AM I searched the archives, but this topic is never quite addressed (that I could find).

If a character with a reach weapon, combat reflexes and the Hold the Line feat is charged by a creature with no reach, does he get two AoOs (one for moving from 10' to 5', and one for the charge), or only one (the movement/charge is one action, so one AoO).

I'm interested in interperetations based on 1) the Rules As Written, 2) game balance, and/or 3) logic/common sense.

Thanks in advance for your response(s).
FitzNighteyes
09-23-04, 12:48 PM 2 AoOs.

1 for charing into the threatened area of a character with Hold the Line.
1 for moving from the 10ft to the 5ft threatening area.

They are different opportunities. One is caused by the action/feat combination (Charging a character with Hold the Line). The other is caused by movement itself.
Beamup
09-23-04, 01:00 PM RAW: 2, as explained by Fitz.

Balance: 2. The guy spent a valuable feat to do this, he should get a valuable benefit out of it.

Common sense: 2. He's spent a good bit of time training in how to hit people effectively when they charge at him, he ought to be better at it than normal.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
JonahBlack 09-23-04, 11:39 AM	I searched the archives, but this topic is never quite addressed (that I could find). If a character with a reach weapon, combat reflexes and the Hold the Line feat is charged by a creature with no reach, does he get two AoOs (one for moving from 10' to 5', and one for the charge), or only one (the movement/charge is one action, so one AoO). I'm interested in interperetations based on 1) the Rules As Written, 2) game balance, and/or 3) logic/common sense. Thanks in advance for your response(s).
FitzNighteyes 09-23-04, 12:48 PM	2 AoOs. 1 for charing into the threatened area of a character with Hold the Line. 1 for moving from the 10ft to the 5ft threatening area. They are different opportunities. One is caused by the action/feat combination (Charging a character with Hold the Line). The other is caused by movement itself.
Beamup 09-23-04, 01:00 PM	RAW: 2, as explained by Fitz. Balance: 2. The guy spent a valuable feat to do this, he should get a valuable benefit out of it. Common sense: 2. He's spent a good bit of time training in how to hit people effectively when they charge at him, he ought to be better at it than normal.