Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Fargren 05-28-06, 10:27 PM	If you make a full-attack on a charge(using Psionic Lion's Charge), does the +2 bonus apply to all attacks? What about multipliers to damage, like the one provided for a Vloruos weapon?(from Unapproachable East)
GhostStepper 05-28-06, 10:40 PM	Yep. Thats why Psionic Lions Charge and its arcane cousin from the SC are so cool. Throw leap attack and power attack in there while your at it.
kjenks 05-28-06, 11:41 PM	Add in Shock Trooper/Heedless Charge + Spirited Charge with a lance (wielded two-handed) along with a paladin's Smite Evil and you get a mind-boggling amount of damage.
kelvinaw273 05-29-06, 12:09 AM	One is reminded of the joust scene in Jabberwocky ....
tarkin 05-29-06, 09:24 AM	Only in a Power Game/Anythign Goes Game No Strict or Loose DM will let you get away with that. Why? 1) It is not just a 'good idea', it is significantly MORE powerfull than the other attack strategies. 2) Because Charge is supposed to be one shot attack, many designers have used it as part of powerfull attacks that they did NOT want to let you get more than once per round. This explains why situation #1 exists. 3) It makes zero logical sense. You get extra damage for charging because you are using up the momentum/energy you built when charging. That energy goes away when you hit the first time, it does nto magically re-appear to be used for other attacks.
GhostStepper 05-31-06, 02:55 AM	1) It is not just a 'good idea', it is significantly MORE powerfull than the other attack strategies. Um...that sounds like a good idea to me. 2) Because Charge is supposed to be one shot attack, many designers have used it as part of powerfull attacks that they did NOT want to let you get more than once per round. This explains why situation #1 exists. The actual wording of the psionic lion's charge specificaly includes damage to "each of your attacks after a charge in the current round". Obviously the designers had getting a bonus on mutliple attacks on a charge specifically in mind when designing this power. The whoel idea of the power is to exploit the ability to get more than one attack on a charge. They DID want to let you have it more than once per round; their intention is not ambiguous here. 3) It makes zero logical sense. You get extra damage for charging because you are using up the momentum/energy you built when charging. That energy goes away when you hit the first time, it does nto magically re-appear to be used for other attacks. Well when it comes to making more than one attack per round with the same weapon on a charge, i have to agree with you. But thats not always the case. Remember that everything that goes on in a round occurs at roughly that same time. If your attacking with multiple natural weapons or are two weapon fighting your making mutliple attacks at the exactly same time with a lion's charge or any pounce. In that case it makes perfect sense to get the bonus on all the attacks. And besides, lion's charge is psionics/magic. Your MAGICALY getting a bonus on your damage on all your attacks. Dont tell me magic missle makes no sense....Magic can do anything! Its hardly powergamming...LOL..its just following the basic power's RAW