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CelestialBarbarian 01-11-06, 01:18 AM	Does anyone know the color of adamantine? The DMG says that mithril has a silvery color, but I see nothing about adamantine. Thanks! :)
Vahenir 01-11-06, 01:34 AM	Too bad the Search function is down because this discussion has been done -to death-. To sum up every argument ever presented on this forum: There is no 'official' word, as of the 3.0 or 3.5 releases of D&D, as to what colour adamantine is supposed to be. It can be whatever colour you want it to. The top three choices are: Black, silvery-grey, tarnished/dull grey. Use whichever suits your tastes better, or say that, depending on what forging process is used it can turn out any number of colours. Following will be 12 pages of discussion on how it can't possibly be colour X because it is obviously colour Y. ;)
CelestialBarbarian 01-11-06, 01:40 AM	Too bad the Search function is down because this discussion has been done -to death-. To sum up every argument ever presented on this forum: There is no 'official' word, as of the 3.0 or 3.5 releases of D&D, as to what colour adamantine is supposed to be. It can be whatever colour you want it to. The top three choices are: Black, silvery-grey, tarnished/dull grey. Use whichever suits your tastes better, or say that, depending on what forging process is used it can turn out any number of colours. Thanks! I've been playing D&D since I went to college in 1978 and I've at different times had it as both black and sparkly dark blue. Following will be 12 pages of discussion on how it can't possibly be colour X because it is obviously colour Y. ;) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sosthenes 01-11-06, 04:09 AM	The Wikipedia Entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantine) is quite interesting. Anybody knows which FR source has the "solarine/baloran" stuff? (Sounds like a combination of infernal and celestial material) Following the etymology, it should be shiny, though.
RaspK FOG 01-11-06, 12:02 PM	The 2e texts suggest that it is shiny with a purple-black tint and a somewhat greenish highlight... Strange, indeed.
Licínio Miranda 01-11-06, 12:13 PM	mmm... I always thought that it was "red', but I don't know why...
TheDragonmaster 01-11-06, 01:18 PM	This is my favourite arguing subject with my friend. This is D&D facts: The 1e, 2e or 3.0 I think states some queer color (I don't know what though, I play 3.5). The Adamantine Golem in ELH is colored a bit Pink-ish or Reddish metal. The Adamantine Clockwork Horror in MM2 is colored Black. In FR, some book states that it is Black (but remember, that's FR). My personal idea is that it looks like steel with a slightly red hue (as well as I see the silvery mithral as a bit blue-tinted). I will argue for this color to the bitter end (but that might vave something to do with me playing Rage of Mages). My friend (who actually has a lot of FR books, even if he do not play in FR and he barely uses the material) is perfectly sure that is is Black. He is, of course, wrong. Adamantine is Pink!!!
Santrilla 01-11-06, 01:25 PM	I've always considered adamantine to be a dark silver colour, perhaps tarnished steel. As there's no official ruling, though, it's entirely up to you / your DM to decide.
tarkin 01-11-06, 01:34 PM	I always rule that Adamantine, like Gold, is never found entirely pure. The kind of impurities it has determines the color. This allows for marketting possibilities. Buy our blood red Adamantine, it is much better than that d@mn southern green adamantine.
Vestigial_Thumb 01-11-06, 02:13 PM	I always rule that Adamantine, like Gold, is never found entirely pure. The kind of impurities it has determines the color. This allows for marketting possibilities. Buy our blood red Adamantine, it is much better than that d@mn southern green adamantine. That makes sense... I always just say, if they ask, that adamantine is "any color you want, any time you want."
CelestialBarbarian 01-11-06, 05:00 PM	I always rule that Adamantine, like Gold, is never found entirely pure. The kind of impurities it has determines the color. This allows for marketting possibilities. Buy our blood red Adamantine, it is much better than that d@mn southern green adamantine. Lots of metals are different in color as ore than in pure form. I'm actually asking what's the color of pure adamantine. :)
jaelis 01-11-06, 05:30 PM	Following will be 12 pages of discussion on how it can't possibly be colour X because it is obviously colour Y. ;) You fool! It is color Z!
Kiklio 01-11-06, 05:38 PM	I've always imagined a greenish-grey, mainly becuase the first time I learned about adamantium was on Runescape (*shivers and clutches holy symbol to repress bad memories).
Vahenir 01-11-06, 05:46 PM	You fool! It is color Z! How could I be so stupid!
Starmage21 01-11-06, 06:01 PM	My DM says its a golden color with brown highlights. In my campaign admantine is black with a blue tint.
mvincent 01-11-06, 06:12 PM	It is black. Apparently (from long previous discussions where people quoted official D&D fiction) it is typically a glossy black that has a greenish sheen in sunlight and a bluish sheen in magical light (or maybe I got those reversed). Anyway, it's mostly black. "It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black."
CelestialBarbarian 01-11-06, 06:29 PM	It is black. Apparently (from long previous discussions where people quoted official D&D fiction) it is typically a glossy black that has a greenish sheen in sunlight and a bluish sheen in magical light (or maybe I got those reversed). Anyway, it's mostly black. "It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None more black." Given that the FR setting says that adamatine is black, I'd be inclined to go that way myself.
Tetsubo 01-11-06, 06:58 PM	In my last (and future) campaign I describe it as: "It has a blue-green iridescent sheen to its surface. If looked at closely it seems that the colors move of their own volition. The ore is a dull brown when found."
CelestialBarbarian 01-11-06, 07:01 PM	In my last (and future) campaign I describe it as: "It has a blue-green iridescent sheen to its surface. If looked at closely it seems that the colors move of their own volition. The ore is a dull brown when found." This is wild! How did we end up coming up with so many different ideas of the color of adamantine?! :D
juggernaughteagle 01-11-06, 07:03 PM	On another note, how much does adamantine weigh?
CelestialBarbarian 01-11-06, 07:33 PM	On another note, how much does adamantine weigh? Since the text doesn't mention that adamantine changes the weight, can we assume that it weighs the same as steel?
antsterr 01-11-06, 07:54 PM	Seeing as in reality Adamantine a crystal not a metal, it really isn't even a real substance the way it's used in D&D. But for fictions sake, let's go with what ever colour suits you. I like the idea of it being black with a green shine in natural light and blue in magic light. Kind of like Alexanderite being red or green depending if it's in natural or artificial light.
Edymnion 01-11-06, 09:54 PM	On another note, how much does adamantine weigh?The same as steel, otherwise it's entry would say there as a differance. And for the record, Adamantine in my game is a near matte dark pewter color.
Raymond_Luxury_Yacht 01-11-06, 10:09 PM	I always rule that Adamantine, like Gold, is never found entirely pure. Gold is, almost without exception, always found pure. In past editions, adamantite (as it was called then) was a dull gray, almost a black.
Ogre4Hire 01-11-06, 10:39 PM	This is my favourite arguing subject with my friend. This is D&D facts: The 1e, 2e or 3.0 I think states some queer color (I don't know what though, I play 3.5). The Adamantine Golem in ELH is colored a bit Pink-ish or Reddish metal. The Adamantine Clockwork Horror in MM2 is colored Black. In FR, some book states that it is Black (but remember, that's FR). My personal idea is that it looks like steel with a slightly red hue (as well as I see the silvery mithral as a bit blue-tinted). I will argue for this color to the bitter end (but that might vave something to do with me playing Rage of Mages). My friend (who actually has a lot of FR books, even if he do not play in FR and he barely uses the material) is perfectly sure that is is Black. He is, of course, wrong. Adamantine is Pink!!! It's not pink, it's lightish red!
CelestialBarbarian 01-11-06, 10:46 PM	Hey Ogre, I hve to say that I love your version of PETA! :D
Dhavaer 01-11-06, 10:47 PM	It's not pink, it's lightish red! It's coral! That's what my science teacher always said about the chairs in his classroom...
mouse47 01-11-06, 10:53 PM	I would think that it had an almost glowing white/silverness to it because isnt it made of diamond?
scienceman47 01-11-06, 11:17 PM	Is this like a Lady of Pain thing? No one will ever know, but many are willing to argue on the subject for an eternia. Think of the coolest metal color ever, thats the color of it.
balard 01-11-06, 11:42 PM	Hey guys, its octarine. :D I know!
arkerpay 01-12-06, 06:52 AM	"The Color of Adamanatine", wasn't that a movie with Tom Cruise and Paul Newman? Anywho, why not just buy some on Ebay and settle this dispute once and for all?
Subedei 01-12-06, 07:27 AM	My adamantine is dull coppery goldish with a slightly greenish tint that some people call blue but they're crazy because it is not a blue tint but a green tint and not blue.
Oliver D'Argent 01-12-06, 07:32 AM	Hey guys, its octarine. :D I know! For those who are not familiar with Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, octarine is the color of magic and is described as "a sort of greenish yellow-purple". :D
Parion 01-12-06, 04:37 PM	Oh please, it's Obviously Puce.
Tony Vargas 01-12-06, 05:30 PM	1E didn't describe adamantine, or, I think it was "adamantite alloy steel" or something like that. It also didn't explain what it was. At all. So, for my campaign I had to come up with something. I defined adamantite as a mineral, not a metal - a soft, graphite-like mineral with a dull green color. Adamantine steel wasn't alloyed with it, rather, adamantite was burned in the forging process. The resultant steel was the usual grey, but with luminous green highlights. For some reason, I initially got the idea that 3E adamantine was black - I guess just to make it different from silvery mithral. But, cold iron's probably a grey pretty close to black, too, so that might not be the best choice. Most metals, of course, are some shade of grey, so that wouldn't be a bad choice.
narukagami 01-12-06, 05:47 PM	In my game we always went by the colors of materials in the computer game Daggerfall. Adamantine is such a dark gray its almost black, and is easier to just call black, and our mithral is dark blue. At the same time most dwarven crafted weapons tend to be gold colored, even if not made of the material, and elven crafted weapons are a highly polished silver color, again, even if not made of the material. Of course, those colors fade after much use if not a magic weapon, as they are special finishes applied to the metal.
DerkathTheMighty 01-12-06, 05:49 PM	Who in the unholy nine hells really cares about the color of adamantine... if you really wanna know why don't you just ask some marvel guru. He is bound to know because Wolverine's skeleton is grafted with adamantine... DUMB :censored: :evillaugh
Ithamar 01-12-06, 06:21 PM	Not that it matters really, but this picture is of a Warforged (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/eb_gallery/82102.jpg) with the adamantine body feat. So at least there is some adamantine in that picture, somewhere, probably...
Vestigial_Thumb 01-12-06, 06:24 PM	Who in the unholy nine hells really cares about the color of adamantine... if you really wanna know why don't you just ask some marvel guru. He is bound to know because Wolverine's skeleton is grafted with adamantine... DUMB :censored: :evillaugh Looks like we've got ourselves a comedian. His humor will turn to insanity over time...
DerkathTheMighty 01-12-06, 06:30 PM	Looks like we've got ourselves a comedian. His humor will turn to insanity over time... Buddy I've been insane since the day I was born... the sarcastic tone was an unexpected side effect :evillaugh
Ogre4Hire 01-12-06, 11:15 PM	It's coral! That's what my science teacher always said about the chairs in his classroom... I guess you don't watch Red Vs. Blue?
Dhavaer 01-12-06, 11:28 PM	I guess you don't watch Red Vs. Blue? I don't have the faintest idea what that is.
aelryinth 01-12-06, 11:57 PM	the original color of adamantine was considered to be black because it was used in drow weapons. Later colors are from FR...black with the green highlights especially. ==Aelryinth
NightScreamer20 01-13-06, 03:47 AM	Stupid me I'm blind. sorry for making a repost of this topic *slap forehead* Anyway from Wikipedia... Adamantium is a fictional chemical substance, often a metal. The name comes from adamant or adamantine combined with the Neolatin ending -ium, and resembles the form of the names of the chemical elements. In its classical meaning, adamant referred either to any hard substance, including diamond, or a hypothetical impenetrable mineral; thus, adamantium often refers to a fictional impenetrable element or substance. -and- Weapons, armor, and constructs (such as golems) can be made of "adamantine" in various Dungeons and Dragons settings, and video games or novels based in those settings. In the Forgotten Realms, adamantine is a dark grey metal, refined from two rare ores, solarine and baloran. It is almost impossible to refine and forge, needing great heat, and weapons made of it are highly prized. In Iter Vehemens ad Necem adamantine is a shiny white very strong material. So Maybe, that it's left colorless because it allows us DMs to give it our own unique color when DMing our own campaign worlds?
CelestialBarbarian 01-13-06, 04:34 AM	"The Color of Adamanatine", wasn't that a movie with Tom Cruise and Paul Newman? You know, I was thinking the exact same thing when I first created this thread. That's actually part of why I dropped the "The" from the title of the thread! :D
CelestialBarbarian 01-13-06, 04:35 AM	My adamantine is dull coppery goldish with a slightly greenish tint that some people call blue but they're crazy because it is not a blue tint but a green tint and not blue. Yeah, but are you sure it's not blue? :D
NightScreamer20 01-13-06, 05:24 AM	"The Color of Adamanatine", wasn't that a movie with Tom Cruise and Paul Newman? Anywho, why not just buy some on Ebay and settle this dispute once and for all? Ya and you remember that old Sean Connery Spy Flick? What was its name... Mithrilfinger? Seriously... something in my brain made the sound of jello hitting concrete in an abandoned stadium... ya you know what I'm talking about... sure.
Orvar 01-13-06, 08:46 AM	I always thought, and that was even before seeing this thread, that adamantine was a blackish, greenish metal. Though sometimes, I've remembered I've thought of it as looking like regular steel. But I'm going to go with the blackish, greenish metal.
WhiteRaven810 01-13-06, 12:50 PM	Adamantine is Pink!!! In Elder Scrolls III, Morrowind: Tribunal, the admantine armor of the royal guard is a rosy pinkish red. Despite it being a pink hue, it is the second coolest looking armor in the game. Although it's worth noting that other pieces of admantine armor in the same game are a steel gray. I myself always thought it was a dull and common gray. Suppose it's all up to the Dungeon Master, but as suggestion prior, admantine was probably left ambigious for such a purpose. P.S./EDIT - The picture of the Warforged with the admantine armor feat is what I meant by dull, common gray.
Easalyamusedoldman 01-13-06, 01:47 PM	Shimmering black, like the still surface of deep under-ground lake that has never known the light of the sun...
Tainted Mage 01-13-06, 03:14 PM	Bright, bright yellow, with pink polka dots. Though I had always thought it was a dull green for some reason. o_O
madd0g200 01-13-06, 03:21 PM	I thought it was a dark red.
Lady Maedhros 01-13-06, 05:33 PM	I've always thought of it as a sort of metallic black, where mithril is silver with blue undertones (blame Tolkien, as this is probably an outgrowth of the blue-glowing properties of Orcrist et al.) and cold iron is a sort of mottled brass-brown with red. IMC one of the gods has an axe made of adamantine and obsidian with gold detailing; it's only cool if it's completely black. :D I think the Tribunal guards lacquered their armor, hence the detailing. But then i modded that game four hundred different colors anyway, so, y'know.
nordyboy 01-20-06, 05:00 PM	Well, I happen to have a good sized, pure chunk of Adamantine right here... I could settle this right now, but I think I'll keep the true nature of this dark, black metal a secret and watch you all fight over my secrets. :evillaugh Wait, did I just reveal the color... <looks back> "...nature of this dark, black metal a..." Yup. Dammit! :mad:
Wharin 01-20-06, 09:18 PM	For those who are not familiar with Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels, octarine is the color of magic and is described as "a sort of greenish yellow-purple". :D Ahh, but what does it sound like? And though this doesnt disprove that Adamantine is black, Adamantite was an alloy of Adamantine developed by the drow, designed to make sure that it never left the Underdark as it would go *poof* as soon as sunlight touched it. And *that* was described as being black. I, like many others, take the stance that Adamantine is more of a pewtery grey.
RaspK FOG 01-20-06, 09:40 PM	Or we could go with random colour tables! For example: 1d6 Result 1 Black 2 Gray 3 Pink 4 Purple 5 DM's choice 6 Reroll twice on this table (if you reroll this, reroll that die only)
Arcticflare 01-20-06, 09:49 PM	I went with the idea that it was like normal iron, but with a greenish tinge. I believe Final Fantasy Tactics Advance put that one in my head. It sets it apart, without being too crazy.
Earthcrosser599 01-20-06, 10:03 PM	I always thought adamantine was purplish. I don't know where I got that idea but I can't remember thinking of it any other way.
JadeSpider9643 01-21-06, 04:35 AM	I've always envisioned adamantine as a sort of Dark Jade Green....without the variations inherant to jade, but with a natural obsidian-like shine....but that's just me and based on the insanity in my own head.
lvl10penguin 01-21-06, 10:16 PM	i have the answer, i got it from the highest and most reliable sourse, possible- adamantine is most defenitely the color----*has a heart attack and dies*
Wharin 01-21-06, 11:03 PM	... and there was much rejoicing. "yay."
terrashand 01-22-06, 12:42 AM	and the quest to find the color of the grai....i mean adamantium would continue. anyway it's florescent clear discussion over :D
trashdog 01-22-06, 04:41 AM	I have absolutely no idea why, but I thought that adamantine was dull bronze. Weird, especially since no one else seems to have thought that.