Combining Improved Critical and Keen [Archive] - Wizards Community

Combining Improved Critical and Keen [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
AceDashDog
05-02-05, 09:06 AM Point of order question here - should a character with Improved Critical in Longsword who has a Keen weapon have a threat range of 15-20, 16-20 or 17-20?

Thanks
Oso_Moore
05-02-05, 09:38 AM Regarding a Keen weapon the DMG says:
"This benefit doesn’t stack with any other effect that expands the threat range of a weapon (such as the keen edge spell or the Improved Critical feat)."
So you would still be 17-20.

In 3.0 I had a Blade Dancer with Improved Crit, Keen, and a scimitar, as well as some epic goodness so I critted on a 10-20. It was a fun niche, but they've closed most of that hole.
Cog
05-02-05, 09:55 AM If you are playing 3.0, they stack and you'd have a threat range of 15-20. If you are playing 3.5, they don't stack, and you'd critical on 17-20
wonlee76
05-02-05, 09:56 AM Presuming you're playing 3.0 rules, 15-20/x2 is the new crit for a person with Improved Crit (Longsword) and a Keen Longsword.

In 3.5, your crit range will be 17-20/x2
AceDashDog
05-02-05, 10:57 AM Thank you all very much - just the answers I needed. We are 3.0 to the hips, so the lucky blighter is 15-20 (I'm the dm!)

These boards are good - civil answers rather than the flames of the old mailing list. Cheers :)

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
AceDashDog 05-02-05, 09:06 AM	Point of order question here - should a character with Improved Critical in Longsword who has a Keen weapon have a threat range of 15-20, 16-20 or 17-20? Thanks
Oso_Moore 05-02-05, 09:38 AM	Regarding a Keen weapon the DMG says: "This benefit doesn’t stack with any other effect that expands the threat range of a weapon (such as the keen edge spell or the Improved Critical feat)." So you would still be 17-20. In 3.0 I had a Blade Dancer with Improved Crit, Keen, and a scimitar, as well as some epic goodness so I critted on a 10-20. It was a fun niche, but they've closed most of that hole.
Cog 05-02-05, 09:55 AM	If you are playing 3.0, they stack and you'd have a threat range of 15-20. If you are playing 3.5, they don't stack, and you'd critical on 17-20
wonlee76 05-02-05, 09:56 AM	Presuming you're playing 3.0 rules, 15-20/x2 is the new crit for a person with Improved Crit (Longsword) and a Keen Longsword. In 3.5, your crit range will be 17-20/x2
AceDashDog 05-02-05, 10:57 AM	Thank you all very much - just the answers I needed. We are 3.0 to the hips, so the lucky blighter is 15-20 (I'm the dm!) These boards are good - civil answers rather than the flames of the old mailing list. Cheers :)