Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Iabes_Q_c_a_Mahorella 02-17-06, 07:10 PM	I am soooo lost. I have a 9th level Human Fighter with Two-weapon fighting, Improved two-weapon fihgting, weapon focus (greatsword), greater weaon focus (greatsword), and weapon specilization (greatsword), and 25 Str. Now, with a +1 Greatsword and a +1 Morningstar (primary and secondary, respectivley) his attacks bonus is... +18/+13 and +15/+10? I have NO IDEA if I did that right...
draconic_swine 02-17-06, 11:18 PM	First of all, you can't two-weapon fight with a greatsword and a morning star, since a greatsword is a two-handed weapon, so right off the bat what you're doing is impossible. For the sake of helping you figure out your attacks, I'll just swap the +1 greatsword for a +1 longsword, and make the feats weapon focus (longsword) and greater weapon focus (longsword). When calculating your attacks, it's usually best to figure out what you'd get when attacking with a single weapon first, and then adding the attacks from the second weapon. To start, since you're a first-level fighter, you have a base attacks of +9/+4. Your strength modifier (+7) increases that to +16/+11 (even though a +16 base attack bonus would grant you four attacks according to the fighter's table, you don't actually get the extra attacks until you're of the level on the table). Now, you add the penalties from two-weapon fighting. Since you have the two-weapon fighting feat and both of the weapons you are using are one-handed, the penalty to both hands is -4. That means that your primary hand now attacks with a +12/+7 bonus, and your off-hand attacks with a +12 bonus (your off-hand attacks use the same BAB as your primary hand attacks). The improved two-weapon fighting feat grants you an extra attack with your offhand at a -5 penalty, meaning that your off-hand now attacks at +12/+7 bonus. Finally, you add in the modifiers from the specific weapons. Since both are +1 weapons, the attack bonus for both hands is now +13/+8. But you have weapon focus feats for the longsword, so the hand attacking with the longsword is bumped up to +15/+10. Voila -- you're all set!
Nom 02-18-06, 01:27 AM	Alternatively, we treat the weapons totally independently. Longsword: BAB +9 +7 Str +1 enhancement +2 greater weapon focus (includes WF) -4 two-weapon fighting penalty Total: +15 With a +9 BAB you can make one iterative attack at -5, thus +9/+4. Which ends up as +15/+10. Morning star: BAB +9 +7 Str +1 enhancement -4 TWF penalty Total: +13 With Improved TWF, you may make a second off-hand attack at -5, which ends up as +13/+8. These are the same values as for draconic_swine, but figuring each hand totally independently. Note that you can only add +3 Str (1/2 Str bonus) to the morning star's damage.
Iabes_Q_c_a_Mahorella 02-18-06, 01:42 PM	Ah. Yeah, I thought those weapons woulden't work. I guess then that the morningstar dosen't quallify as a light weapon. I'm not realy sure which ones do. If the off-hand weapon were light, the TWPenealties would drop to -2, right?
draconic_swine 02-18-06, 03:03 PM	Yes, so your attacks would then be +17/+12 with your longsword, and +15/+10. If you're going to go with one light weapon, you might want to consider wielding two of that weapon. That way, any weapon-specific feats you have will apply to both. If you were to wield a pair of short swords and change your weapon focus feats from a longsword to short sword, then your attack bonus with both hands would be +17+12.
Iabes_Q_c_a_Mahorella 02-18-06, 08:56 PM	Hmm. Hadn't thought of that... I could just go with two longswords, though, right? Which would be... +15/+10 and +15/+10, right? (assuming +1 weapons)
draconic_swine 02-19-06, 12:55 AM	You've got it. Two longswords would each attack with +15/+10.