Constructs who rage... frenzy? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Constructs who rage... frenzy? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
SephDragoon
12-16-06, 03:39 PM Could a construct, or other non-living, no-constitution creature use the rage or frenzy ability? Does the CON get changed into CHA?
Rulebook
12-16-06, 04:15 PM nope. you get what the book says: your con mod+3 rounds.

invest in extended rage.
Fallenangel359
12-16-06, 06:27 PM so sad...
extended rage, very useful...
CantripN
12-17-06, 04:48 AM You get 3 rounds. No con bonus, but at least you get 3 rounds.

Extend Rage is the way to go, yes.
SephDragoon
12-18-06, 01:29 AM Yeah, I guess it would be broken as hell considering the constructs take no non-lethal damage, and doesn't suffer fatigue. So yeah, no con bonus doesn't seem that big. The guy did take extend rage, and wow, it extends it ALOT.
dengarbountyhunter
12-18-06, 06:31 PM Well, you only get 3 rounds of rage, but no fatigue after (since Con-less creatures are usually immune to fatigue). Not that cool, but still interesting.

Edit: And sure, you can be a barbarian undead or construct if you meet the other prerequisites (having an Int score is a prerequisite for having class levels if I'm not mistaken).
SephDragoon
12-18-06, 08:10 PM It is for an NPC half-golem who failed his will save. Yes... I am not being very nice considering. It is one of the BBEG's minions. This guy is supposed to be stronger than a dragon (which he is... 34 strength without rage, frenzy, or buffs).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
SephDragoon 12-16-06, 03:39 PM	Could a construct, or other non-living, no-constitution creature use the rage or frenzy ability? Does the CON get changed into CHA?
Rulebook 12-16-06, 04:15 PM	nope. you get what the book says: your con mod+3 rounds. invest in extended rage.
Fallenangel359 12-16-06, 06:27 PM	so sad... extended rage, very useful...
CantripN 12-17-06, 04:48 AM	You get 3 rounds. No con bonus, but at least you get 3 rounds. Extend Rage is the way to go, yes.
SephDragoon 12-18-06, 01:29 AM	Yeah, I guess it would be broken as hell considering the constructs take no non-lethal damage, and doesn't suffer fatigue. So yeah, no con bonus doesn't seem that big. The guy did take extend rage, and wow, it extends it ALOT.
dengarbountyhunter 12-18-06, 06:31 PM	Well, you only get 3 rounds of rage, but no fatigue after (since Con-less creatures are usually immune to fatigue). Not that cool, but still interesting. Edit: And sure, you can be a barbarian undead or construct if you meet the other prerequisites (having an Int score is a prerequisite for having class levels if I'm not mistaken).
SephDragoon 12-18-06, 08:10 PM	It is for an NPC half-golem who failed his will save. Yes... I am not being very nice considering. It is one of the BBEG's minions. This guy is supposed to be stronger than a dragon (which he is... 34 strength without rage, frenzy, or buffs).