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Agonought 09-15-04, 06:04 AM	Ok, containers. How do u know what a backpack and such can hold. I have version 3.0 Players Handbook and DM Guide (buying 3.5 MM, DM Guide, PC Handbook soon...) please guys help me so I can get my awesome campain underway... -Thanx, Agonought
Ssussunriyh 09-15-04, 08:04 AM	Hope you can make sense of this. This chart was originally written using a spreadsheet program, which I don't know how to format on these boards... Containers and Carriers - Dry Goods Item: Cost | Empty Weight (English Units) | Holds or Carries (English Units) | Empty Weight (Metric Units) | Holds or Carries (Metric Units) Backpack: 2 gp | 2 lb.[1] | 1 cubic ft./60 lb.[1] | 1 kg[1] | 0.03 cubic meters/30 kg Barrel: 2 gp | 30 lb. | 10 cubic ft./650 lb.[2] | 15 kg | 0.3 cubic meters/300 kg[2] Basket: 4 sp | 1 lb. | 2 cubic ft./20 lb. | 0.5 kg | 0.06 cubic meters/10 kg Bucket: 5 sp | 2 lb. | 1 cubic ft./65 lb.[3] | 1 kg | 0.03 cubic meters/30 kg[3] Chest: 2 gp | 25 lb. | 2 cubic ft./200 lb. | 12.5 kg | 0.06 cubic meters/100 kg Pouch, belt: 1 gp | 1/2 lb.[1] | 1/5 cubic ft./10 lb.[1] | 0.25 kg[1] | 6,000 cubic centimeters/5 kg Sack: 1 sp | 1/2 lb.[1] | 1 cubic ft./60 lb.[1] | 0.25 kg[1] | 0.03 cubic meters/30 kg Saddlebags: 4 gp | 8 lb. | 5 cubic ft./250 lb. | 4 kg | 0.15 cubic meters/125 kg Spell component pouch: 5 gp | 1/4 lb.[1] | 1/8 cubic ft./2 lb. | 0.125 kg[1] | 3,750 cubic centimeters/1 kg Liquids Item: Cost | Empty Weight (English Units) | Holds or Carries (English Units) | Empty Weight (Metric Units) | Holds or Carries (Metric Units) Bottle, wine, glass: 2 gp | -- | 1 1/2 pints/1.5 lb. | -- | 0.33 liters/0.33 kg Flask: 3 cp | -- | 1 pint/1 lb. | -- | 0.25 liters/0.25 kg Jug, clay: 3 cp | 1 lb. | 1 gallon/8 lb. | 0.5 kg | 4 liters/4 kg Mug/tankard, clay: 2 cp | -- | 1 pint/1 lb. | -- | 0.25 liters/0.25 kg Pitcher, clay: 2 cp | 1 lb. | 1/2 gallon/4 lb. | 0.5 kg | 4 liters/4 kg Pot, iron: 5 sp | 2 lb. | 1 gallon/8 lb. | 0.5 kg | 4 liters/4 kg Vial, ink or potion: 1 gp | -- | 1 fluid ounce/-- | -- | 30 ml/-- Waterskin: 1 gp | -- | 1/2 gallon/4 lb. [1] | -- | 2 liters/2 kg -- No weight worth mentioning 1. When made for Medium characters. Weighs one-quarter the normal amount when made for Small characters. Weighs twice the normal amount when made for Large characters. Containers carry one-quarter the normal amount when made for Small characters. Rations for small characters weigh one-quarter as much, but also contain only one-quarter of the food and cost one-quarter as much. 2. A barrel filled with liquid holds about 75 gallons or about 300 liters. 3. A bucket filled with liquid holds about 7 gallons or about 30 liters. Hauling Vehicles Item: Cost | Empty Weight (English Units) | Holds or Carries (English Units) | Empty Weight (Metric Units) | Holds or Carries (Metric Units) Cart: 15 gp | 200 lb. | 1/2 ton | 100 kg | 500 kg Sled: 20 gp | 300 lb. | 1 ton | 150 kg | 1,000 kg Wagon: 35 gp | 400 lb. | 2 tons | 200 kg | 2,000 kg A packhorse can carry one eighth of a ton. A horse-drawn cart or wagon can carry five-eights of a ton on soft roads, and up to two tons on a good road. A barge pulled by a horse can carry 30 tons on a river or 50 tons on a canal.
Agonought 09-15-04, 08:21 AM	Yea thanx for replying but if you could give me some kind of example for the bookbag, sack & waterskin so I could understand a little better or e-mail it to me at americasarmymail@hotmail.com that would be great. Thanx again, Agonought.
Ssussunriyh 09-16-04, 06:54 AM	What's not to understand? I don't quite grasp what you're having trouble with...
cbolt_toak 09-18-04, 12:18 AM	Hey, Ssussunriyh, where are those tables from? And since this is being refronted, anybody else know a good site for the same/similar tables, most offical being the most helpful?
Agonought 09-18-04, 12:21 AM	SO, lemme get this straight. 1 cu. ft. is equal to 60 lbs. of equipment and 1 gallon of water is equal to 8 lbs. I hope I got this right... Sorry, my stupidity is obvious... Thanx...again, Agonought.
cbolt_toak 09-18-04, 12:43 AM	Nevermind I found it, It's in the Metric Conversions Article here in WOTC website. Wish I knew how to do hyperlinks...sigh.
Ssussunriyh 09-18-04, 01:01 AM	I had forgotten where I had originally copied it from, thanks for refreshing my memory. And here's a link to the article: Going Metric (Part 4) by Skip Williams (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/rg/20040406a)
Shadowfax7 09-18-04, 12:34 PM	SO, lemme get this straight. 1 cu. ft. is equal to 60 lbs. of equipment and 1 gallon of water is equal to 8 lbs. 1 gallon of water = 8 lb. (approx.) is true, but 1 cu.ft. = 60 lb. of equipment is a generalization. There could be equipment which is 1 cu. ft. which only ways 1 lb. :)
Ssussunriyh 09-18-04, 05:06 PM	The weights and volumes listed are maximum capacities for the containers, not fixed values or absolutes. Certainly you could have a backpack or a sack hold less in terms of weight and/or volume, you just can't make it hold more. Let's consider coins, for example. According to the Player’s Handbook, a standard coin weighs about one-third of an ounce, or fifty to the pound. This figure apparently doesn’t change whether the coin is composed of copper, silver, gold, or platinum. Science majors may howl in protest over this, but for simplicity’s sake let’s take it as given. (And who says we’re dealing with pure metals here? Even with the skill of dwarves and the use of magic, the prevailing level of technology is equivalent to Europe during the Midde Ages. It’s unlikely that the smelting and refining techniques available could produce a degree of purity that would make such a distinction necessary. Besides, D&D is a fantasy game. If you enjoy debating the laws of physics, maybe a science-fiction RPG would be more to your liking…) The standard coin is shown at actual size in the PHB, as well. It is about one-and-three-sixteenths of an inch (1.1875”) in diameter. Thickness is not given, but let’s assume that it is at least as thick as a modern-day US quarter. Actually, the thickest coin I have in my pocket is a nickel, measuring about .075” on a micrometer. From these figures, we can calculate that a coin has a volume of .083 cubic inches. One cubic inch of solid metal would contain the equivalent of 11.2 minted coins. But since coins are round, not square, there is a significant amount of leftover space in between them, even when neatly stacked. Comparing the volume of a standard coin to that of a theoretical square “coin” with the same width and thickness (.106 c.i.), we conclude that coins will take up 78.5% of the available space when stacked. Fudging things a bit, let’s assume that the figure is around 65% for coins just dumped in any old which way. This translates to an average of 8.5 coins per cubic inch when stacked, or 7 per cubic inch when piled loose. (All figures have been rounded down, since you can’t compress a load of coins like you can stuff more clothing into a suitcase.) (NOTE: For metric users, a coin’s diameter would be 31mm and its thickness would be 1.9mm. The rest is left as an exercise to the student, since the would-be teacher is a stubborn, lazy American…) A backpack has a volume of 1 cubic foot, which equals 1728 cubic inches, so in theory it could hold over 12,000 coins, which would weigh about 240 pounds. (We’ll only consider loose coinage - who would bother to stack it all?) But what would happen if you filled it with 240 pounds worth of coins and then tried to pick it up? The straps would come off, it would burst apart at the seams, and you’d probably give yourself a hernia! So the more important questions are: how much can you safely put into such a container without destroying it, or carry in it without straining yourself? The charts give the official figures.