Converting Weapon Properties. [Archive] - Wizards Community

Converting Weapon Properties. [Archive] - Wizards Community

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BloodDragon
07-23-07, 03:12 PM In the DMG it states that players may be allowed to “upgrade” magic weapons and armour. A +1 sword can be turned into a +2 sword for the difference in cost.

Is it possible to Change the properties of the sword?

Thus can a +1 Shock, Flame Long Sword (which is the equivalent of a +3 Sword, 18,000 gp) be upgraded into a +1 Dancing Long Sword (which is the equivalent of a +5 Sword, 50,000 gp) for the difference between a +3 and +5; 32,000 gp?

I’m not looking for a house rule please; I’d like to know if this can be done within the standard rules?

Thank you in advance.
Platstud
07-23-07, 03:14 PM No, you can't remove or change properties of a weapon or armour.
tarkin
07-23-07, 03:15 PM There is no rule in any WoTC published book I read of that allows this.

Note, it is actually far more likely that someone would want the following kind of change:

+1 Unholy, Axiomatic Long sword

into

+1 Holy, Axiomatic Long sword.

So there is actually a reason to allow it to happen.

I personally House Rule that to remove a magical enchantment costs as much as creating it.
BloodDragon
07-23-07, 03:16 PM +1 Unholy, Axiomatic Long sword

into

+1 Holy, Axiomatic Long sword.

So there is actually a reason to allow it to not happen.

Good point. I see why it isn't allowed. Thanks for the fast reply.

I personally House Rule that to remove a magical enchantment costs as much as creating it.

Scroll of Mage’s Disjunction: 3,825 gp :P
Airos
07-23-07, 04:41 PM I'm confused...:confused:

Tarkin said;

So there is actually a reason to allow it to happen.

I personally House Rule that to remove a magical enchantment costs as much as creating it.

Yet BloodDragon quoted him as saying;

+1 Unholy, Axiomatic Long sword

into

+1 Holy, Axiomatic Long sword.

So there is actually a reason to allow it to not happen.

Good point. I see why it isn't allowed. Thanks for the fast reply.

(emphasis mine)

It looks to me like Tarkin is saying that it is not an official rule, but it is a fair house rule.
tarkin
07-23-07, 04:46 PM I think I changed my post, and he caught me on an iteration with a grammer error.

What I am saying is that no, it is not fair to simply let them change it at will, for no or minimal cost

Then I gave what I consider to be a reasonable fair house rule - to let them remove an enchantment at the same cost of creating it.
GSonic7
07-23-07, 04:51 PM In the examples that are given, would it has been impossible or nearly impossible to sell the magic item for full value, and then buy a new one, which would net you the difference in cost?

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
BloodDragon 07-23-07, 03:12 PM	In the DMG it states that players may be allowed to “upgrade” magic weapons and armour. A +1 sword can be turned into a +2 sword for the difference in cost. Is it possible to Change the properties of the sword? Thus can a +1 Shock, Flame Long Sword (which is the equivalent of a +3 Sword, 18,000 gp) be upgraded into a +1 Dancing Long Sword (which is the equivalent of a +5 Sword, 50,000 gp) for the difference between a +3 and +5; 32,000 gp? I’m not looking for a house rule please; I’d like to know if this can be done within the standard rules? Thank you in advance.
Platstud 07-23-07, 03:14 PM	No, you can't remove or change properties of a weapon or armour.
tarkin 07-23-07, 03:15 PM	There is no rule in any WoTC published book I read of that allows this. Note, it is actually far more likely that someone would want the following kind of change: +1 Unholy, Axiomatic Long sword into +1 Holy, Axiomatic Long sword. So there is actually a reason to allow it to happen. I personally House Rule that to remove a magical enchantment costs as much as creating it.
BloodDragon 07-23-07, 03:16 PM	+1 Unholy, Axiomatic Long sword into +1 Holy, Axiomatic Long sword. So there is actually a reason to allow it to not happen. Good point. I see why it isn't allowed. Thanks for the fast reply. I personally House Rule that to remove a magical enchantment costs as much as creating it. Scroll of Mage’s Disjunction: 3,825 gp :P
Airos 07-23-07, 04:41 PM	I'm confused...:confused: Tarkin said; So there is actually a reason to allow it to happen. I personally House Rule that to remove a magical enchantment costs as much as creating it. Yet BloodDragon quoted him as saying; +1 Unholy, Axiomatic Long sword into +1 Holy, Axiomatic Long sword. So there is actually a reason to allow it to not happen. Good point. I see why it isn't allowed. Thanks for the fast reply. (emphasis mine) It looks to me like Tarkin is saying that it is not an official rule, but it is a fair house rule.
tarkin 07-23-07, 04:46 PM	I think I changed my post, and he caught me on an iteration with a grammer error. What I am saying is that no, it is not fair to simply let them change it at will, for no or minimal cost Then I gave what I consider to be a reasonable fair house rule - to let them remove an enchantment at the same cost of creating it.
GSonic7 07-23-07, 04:51 PM	In the examples that are given, would it has been impossible or nearly impossible to sell the magic item for full value, and then buy a new one, which would net you the difference in cost?