cost formula for item with caster level bonus [Archive] - Wizards Community

cost formula for item with caster level bonus [Archive] - Wizards Community

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gurufoo
04-12-05, 05:44 PM What is the formula for determining the costs to create a magic item that will increase your caster level. I'd like to know how to do this for both CL increase to defeat SR (e.g. Robe of the Archmagi) and also for CL increase normal (e.g. Bead of Karma).

Oh, and what about the various types of bonuses (enhancement, sacred, insight, etc...) for this item? I'm referring to how a deflection AC bonus is bonus squared X 2000, and a divine AC bonus is bonus squared X 2500. I assume it's similar for CL bonus?

I'm playing a fairly even leveled Mystic Theurge and my CL for arcane and divine spells kinda sucks. I've got a Bead of Karma, Orange Iuon stone, spell enhancer spell, create magic tatoo...any other items I'm missing (besides the robe of archmagi)?

Thanks all.

-James
Loren Pechtel
04-12-05, 11:19 PM Beware of stacking issues!!

The ioun stone is a pure caster level item, it should serve as a good base to calculate from.

In the absence of any other rules I would use the standard pattern that cost goes up at the square of the bonus. IIRC you only get +4 before it goes epic.

I'm not at all sure I would allow it anyway so long as spells like blasphemy exist.
Thyme71
04-13-05, 01:59 AM What is the formula for determining the costs to create a magic item that will increase your caster level. I'd like to know how to do this for both CL increase to defeat SR (e.g. Robe of the Archmagi) and also for CL increase normal (e.g. Bead of Karma).

Oh, and what about the various types of bonuses (enhancement, sacred, insight, etc...) for this item? I'm referring to how a deflection AC bonus is bonus squared X 2000, and a divine AC bonus is bonus squared X 2500. I assume it's similar for CL bonus?

I'm playing a fairly even leveled Mystic Theurge and my CL for arcane and divine spells kinda sucks. I've got a Bead of Karma, Orange Iuon stone, spell enhancer spell, create magic tatoo...any other items I'm missing (besides the robe of archmagi)?

Thanks all.

-James

I would use the Orange Iuon Stone as a base. It's base price is 30,000gps. Divide that by 2 (since it does not take a slot on the body, the value was doubled). This comes to 15,000gps if it was a body slot item. Determining how to come up with that 15,000 for a +1 CL, it is best to follow the conventions you listed of bonus x bonus x gp value. So for a straight Caster level bonus go with CL bonus x CL bonus x 15,000gps for the base price. That is high, but CL bonus is quite a nice bonus.

Thyme
gurufoo
04-13-05, 10:40 AM Loren, you must have read my mind about blasphemy (well, dictum in my case). Am I that transparent? ;^)

Thyme71 & Lauren, good call with the iuon stone. I was thinking that, but wanted to hear from people more knowledgeable than myself.

Thank you both so much.

-James

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gurufoo 04-12-05, 05:44 PM	What is the formula for determining the costs to create a magic item that will increase your caster level. I'd like to know how to do this for both CL increase to defeat SR (e.g. Robe of the Archmagi) and also for CL increase normal (e.g. Bead of Karma). Oh, and what about the various types of bonuses (enhancement, sacred, insight, etc...) for this item? I'm referring to how a deflection AC bonus is bonus squared X 2000, and a divine AC bonus is bonus squared X 2500. I assume it's similar for CL bonus? I'm playing a fairly even leveled Mystic Theurge and my CL for arcane and divine spells kinda sucks. I've got a Bead of Karma, Orange Iuon stone, spell enhancer spell, create magic tatoo...any other items I'm missing (besides the robe of archmagi)? Thanks all. -James
Loren Pechtel 04-12-05, 11:19 PM	Beware of stacking issues!! The ioun stone is a pure caster level item, it should serve as a good base to calculate from. In the absence of any other rules I would use the standard pattern that cost goes up at the square of the bonus. IIRC you only get +4 before it goes epic. I'm not at all sure I would allow it anyway so long as spells like blasphemy exist.
Thyme71 04-13-05, 01:59 AM	What is the formula for determining the costs to create a magic item that will increase your caster level. I'd like to know how to do this for both CL increase to defeat SR (e.g. Robe of the Archmagi) and also for CL increase normal (e.g. Bead of Karma). Oh, and what about the various types of bonuses (enhancement, sacred, insight, etc...) for this item? I'm referring to how a deflection AC bonus is bonus squared X 2000, and a divine AC bonus is bonus squared X 2500. I assume it's similar for CL bonus? I'm playing a fairly even leveled Mystic Theurge and my CL for arcane and divine spells kinda sucks. I've got a Bead of Karma, Orange Iuon stone, spell enhancer spell, create magic tatoo...any other items I'm missing (besides the robe of archmagi)? Thanks all. -James I would use the Orange Iuon Stone as a base. It's base price is 30,000gps. Divide that by 2 (since it does not take a slot on the body, the value was doubled). This comes to 15,000gps if it was a body slot item. Determining how to come up with that 15,000 for a +1 CL, it is best to follow the conventions you listed of bonus x bonus x gp value. So for a straight Caster level bonus go with CL bonus x CL bonus x 15,000gps for the base price. That is high, but CL bonus is quite a nice bonus. Thyme
gurufoo 04-13-05, 10:40 AM	Loren, you must have read my mind about blasphemy (well, dictum in my case). Am I that transparent? ;^) Thyme71 & Lauren, good call with the iuon stone. I was thinking that, but wanted to hear from people more knowledgeable than myself. Thank you both so much. -James