Cost of these items? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cost of these items? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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mtrpcic
11-18-07, 11:21 PM Hey everyone. I want to make a character who's dangerously amazing at jumping (If you're wondering why, it's because my last character failed a jump check, and it's more of a joke on the DM).

Anyways, there's two items I need to be "appraised". Since I'm the one using them, I'm afraid my ideas would be bias, so here they are.

A Ring of Polymorph: I don't want the full powers of polymorph, I just want to be polymorphed into a Thri-Kreen, all the time (I can't take the level adjustment)

A Ring of Jump: As the spell. How much would it cost for one at Caster Level 1 (+10 Bonus to Jump), Caster Level 5 (+20 Bonus to Jump), and Caster Level 9 (+30 Bonus to Jump).

Thanks for all your help in advance,

-Mike
GrondGala
11-19-07, 12:35 AM You simply MUST build the Jumplomancer.

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=943738&highlight=jumplomancer
risner
11-19-07, 08:42 AM 1) A Ring of Polymorph: I don't want the full powers of polymorph, I just want to be polymorphed into a Thri-Kreen, all the time (I can't take the level adjustment)

2) A Ring of Jump: As the spell. How much would it cost for one at Caster Level 1 (+10 Bonus to Jump), Caster Level 5 (+20 Bonus to Jump), and Caster Level 9 (+30 Bonus to Jump).

1) Large number of problems with this. First, you would price it based on what it gives, so if it did give +30 jump (which it doesn't see below), it would cost 30*30*100 + more gp for the other abilities. Second, you only get the Ex SA and not the Ex SQ (which the Jump +30 is) so you only gain:
+2 Strength, +4 Dexterity (which would factor into the price at 2*2*2,000 +4*4*2,000 if made enhancement bonuses)
land speed is 40 feet (2,500)
+3 natural armor (3*3*2,000)
Multiple Limbs
Natural Attacks
Poison
Deflect Arrows feat (5,000?)
+4 racial bonus on Hide (4*4*100)

You would not gain:
Darkvision
Psionic
Immunity to sleep
Leap

So what does this make this item cost?
66,100 if you don't factor in any cost boosters from multiple different abilities.
A fair price would likely be 90,000 gp

2) Ring of Jump = X*X*100 where X is how many ranks you have in Jump while making the ring. You could use any spell to make it since the spell isn't what is providing the power of the ring. Here are the only valid prices for this ring:
+1 Jump = 100 gp (requires someone with 1 Jump rank)
+5 Jump = 2,500 gp (requires 5 Jump ranks which in turn requires level 2)
+10 Jump = 10,000 gp (requires 10 Jump ranks and level 7)
+20 Jump = 40,000 gp (requires 20 Jump ranks and level 17)
+30 Jump = 90,000 gp (requires 30 Jump ranks and level 27 minimum)
Kitep
11-19-07, 10:22 PM Looks like it might be cheaper to get winged boots, but put the limitation on them that they simply allow you to jump from point A to point B, not actually fly.
wonlee76
11-20-07, 12:03 PM +2 Strength, +4 Dexterity (which would factor into the price at 2*2*2,000 +4*4*2,000 if made enhancement bonuses)

I might be wrong about this, but doesn't the polymorph spell when used change your stats to a "typical/average" version of whatever you're polymorphing into? So strictly speaking, the racial bonus doesn't increase the PC's stats, the PC just gets the 12 strength and 14 dex of a Thri-Kreen (and whatever th normal Con score is for a Thri-kreen, I'm guessing 10 seeing as no bonus is accounted for it).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
mtrpcic 11-18-07, 11:21 PM	Hey everyone. I want to make a character who's dangerously amazing at jumping (If you're wondering why, it's because my last character failed a jump check, and it's more of a joke on the DM). Anyways, there's two items I need to be "appraised". Since I'm the one using them, I'm afraid my ideas would be bias, so here they are. A Ring of Polymorph: I don't want the full powers of polymorph, I just want to be polymorphed into a Thri-Kreen, all the time (I can't take the level adjustment) A Ring of Jump: As the spell. How much would it cost for one at Caster Level 1 (+10 Bonus to Jump), Caster Level 5 (+20 Bonus to Jump), and Caster Level 9 (+30 Bonus to Jump). Thanks for all your help in advance, -Mike
GrondGala 11-19-07, 12:35 AM	You simply MUST build the Jumplomancer. http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=943738&highlight=jumplomancer
risner 11-19-07, 08:42 AM	1) A Ring of Polymorph: I don't want the full powers of polymorph, I just want to be polymorphed into a Thri-Kreen, all the time (I can't take the level adjustment) 2) A Ring of Jump: As the spell. How much would it cost for one at Caster Level 1 (+10 Bonus to Jump), Caster Level 5 (+20 Bonus to Jump), and Caster Level 9 (+30 Bonus to Jump). 1) Large number of problems with this. First, you would price it based on what it gives, so if it did give +30 jump (which it doesn't see below), it would cost 3030100 + more gp for the other abilities. Second, you only get the Ex SA and not the Ex SQ (which the Jump +30 is) so you only gain: +2 Strength, +4 Dexterity (which would factor into the price at 222,000 +442,000 if made enhancement bonuses) land speed is 40 feet (2,500) +3 natural armor (332,000) Multiple Limbs Natural Attacks Poison Deflect Arrows feat (5,000?) +4 racial bonus on Hide (44100) You would not gain: Darkvision Psionic Immunity to sleep Leap So what does this make this item cost? 66,100 if you don't factor in any cost boosters from multiple different abilities. A fair price would likely be 90,000 gp 2) Ring of Jump = XX100 where X is how many ranks you have in Jump while making the ring. You could use any spell to make it since the spell isn't what is providing the power of the ring. Here are the only valid prices for this ring: +1 Jump = 100 gp (requires someone with 1 Jump rank) +5 Jump = 2,500 gp (requires 5 Jump ranks which in turn requires level 2) +10 Jump = 10,000 gp (requires 10 Jump ranks and level 7) +20 Jump = 40,000 gp (requires 20 Jump ranks and level 17) +30 Jump = 90,000 gp (requires 30 Jump ranks and level 27 minimum)
Kitep 11-19-07, 10:22 PM	Looks like it might be cheaper to get winged boots, but put the limitation on them that they simply allow you to jump from point A to point B, not actually fly.
wonlee76 11-20-07, 12:03 PM	+2 Strength, +4 Dexterity (which would factor into the price at 222,000 +442,000 if made enhancement bonuses) I might be wrong about this, but doesn't the polymorph spell when used change your stats to a "typical/average" version of whatever you're polymorphing into? So strictly speaking, the racial bonus doesn't increase the PC's stats, the PC just gets the 12 strength and 14 dex of a Thri-Kreen (and whatever th normal Con score is for a Thri-kreen, I'm guessing 10 seeing as no bonus is accounted for it).