Coup De Grace on Pinned opponent [Archive] - Wizards Community

Coup De Grace on Pinned opponent [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Sunblast
04-16-07, 10:25 AM This idea came up during our last gaming session, though the need to rule on it never arose. When an opponent is pinned, he is considered helpless. This opens up the option of performing a coup de grace. However, does this mean that the person grappling the opponent can coup de grace the opponent, or can it only be done by the pinner's allies? Our grapple-fiend (a monk, of course) wants to do that to emulate snapping her enemy's neck. Is it a legal move?
Ralp
04-16-07, 11:11 AM When an opponent is pinned, he is considered helpless. This opens up the option of performing a coup de grace.

Pinned
Held immobile (but not helpless) in a grapple.
Hope this helps. You are correct that only helpless opponents can be coup de graced. (er, "couped de grace"? :confused:)
Screams_of_the_Oak
04-16-07, 12:15 PM When pinned, you have less room to move, and you take -4 to AC. However, that doesn't mean that they are so helpless that you can make the precision needed for a coupe-de-grace.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Sunblast 04-16-07, 10:25 AM	This idea came up during our last gaming session, though the need to rule on it never arose. When an opponent is pinned, he is considered helpless. This opens up the option of performing a coup de grace. However, does this mean that the person grappling the opponent can coup de grace the opponent, or can it only be done by the pinner's allies? Our grapple-fiend (a monk, of course) wants to do that to emulate snapping her enemy's neck. Is it a legal move?
Ralp 04-16-07, 11:11 AM	When an opponent is pinned, he is considered helpless. This opens up the option of performing a coup de grace. Pinned Held immobile (but not helpless) in a grapple. Hope this helps. You are correct that only helpless opponents can be coup de graced. (er, "couped de grace"? :confused:)
Screams_of_the_Oak 04-16-07, 12:15 PM	When pinned, you have less room to move, and you take -4 to AC. However, that doesn't mean that they are so helpless that you can make the precision needed for a coupe-de-grace.