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Sunblast 09-19-07, 09:20 PM	Low Obstacles and Cover: A low obstacle (such as a wall no higher than half your height) provides cover, but only to creatures within 30 feet (6 squares) of it. The attacker can ignore the cover if he’s closer to the obstacle than his target. OK, so a low wall would provide a human with a nice cover bonus. However, what if a halfling stands behind that same wall? How does that work? Also, what if you have a halfling on one side of that wall and an orc right on the other side? Who gets cover bonuses in the melee that is to follow? While we're at it... Soft Cover: Creatures, even your enemies, can provide you with cover against ranged attacks, giving you a +4 bonus to AC. However, such soft cover provides no bonus on Reflex saves, nor does soft cover allow you to make a Hide check. So, if you stand behind a teammate, you'll get a cover bonus if an enemy archer takes a shot at you. However, what about standing behind a halfling? Picture it. The party's archer hides behind the halfling cleric decked out in full-late armor complete with a tower shield being used to provide cover. Obviously, the party's archer has cover from the enemy archer, but what about the other way around? Is the halfling cleric, or at least the halfling's tower shield, providing a cover bonus similar to how a low wall would?
ToastedAmphibian 09-19-07, 11:51 PM	If the low wall is about half the size of a halfling, then the halfing uses the rules above. If its half the size of a human, then the halflig has total cover from it, and teh orc on the other size has total cover from the halfling. As for teh secound question, ask your dm and see if he slaps you. If your the dm, slap whoever asks that. Otherwise, you can go one of two ways. The way that makes sense. Or the easy way that saves time and just follows the rules. The way that makes sense; all cover is relative to size, small creatures provide less cover but yoru more likly to have cover from a small creature. Use trigonometry to determine how large of a fire arc the attacker has, then determine how much of it the cover blocks. Make sure to weight it acording to how wide the cover is. The easy way; the halfling provides soft cover to both the archer behind him and teh archer in front of him. (From eachother)
ToastedAmphibian 09-20-07, 12:04 AM	....(')> ....| ....|..............= ....|.......=........<(') .....=..................| ....|.....=.............| ....|..........=....|..| ....|..............=|..| ~37%cover!
Sunblast 09-20-07, 07:43 AM	If the low wall is about half the size of a halfling, then the halfing uses the rules above. If its half the size of a human, then the halflig has total cover from it, and teh orc on the other size has total cover from the halfling. Honestly, I'm surprised at that ruling. The orc would be just on the other side, and he'd be able to see over the wall no problem. Why can't he take a swing at the halfling? As for teh secound question, ask your dm and see if he slaps you. If your the dm, slap whoever asks that. Hey! I don't need people doin' that to me! What if I still have a soft spot on my head somewhere? :weep: I had this idea for the times when we've got a horde of monsters on the other side of the door. The halfing would just set down her shield in the doorway, then we could peg the enemies with longspears and ranged attacks (I'm a warlock myself). The DM never gives the enemies ranged weapons, and she refuses to read the rules, so bull rushing isn't gonna happen... Umm, what in the infinite layers of the Abyss is that? A diagram? I can't tell. :confused:
goawayugh 09-20-07, 03:02 PM	....(')> ....| ....|..............= ....|.......=........<(') .....=..................| ....|.....=.............| ....|..........=....|..| ....|..............=|..| ~37%cover! ?. I don't see it...
ToastedAmphibian 09-20-07, 04:22 PM	How many posters does it take to get to the center of a toastagram? Lets find out. One, A two ...... Anyways, if teh halfling has total cover from a wall, then it is over his head. He cant see the orc, hes too short, and the orc cannot see him. Kinda the midget behind the counter cliche.
Sunblast 09-20-07, 05:58 PM	How many posters does it take to get to the center of a toastagram? Lets find out. One, A two I am totally lost. :( Anyways, if teh halfling has total cover from a wall, then it is over his head. He cant see the orc, hes too short, and the orc cannot see him. Kinda the midget behind the counter cliche. Oh yeah, I guess you have a point there. Nice. :D
mvincent 09-20-07, 07:31 PM	what if a halfling stands behind that same wall? It constitutes cover... or total cover vs. an small creatures on the other side. what if you have a halfling on one side of that wall and an orc right on the other side? Who gets cover bonuses in the melee that is to follow? They both get a cover bonus. From the rules (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatModifiers.htm#cover): "To determine whether your target has cover from your ranged attack, choose a corner of your square. If any line from this corner to any corner of the target’s square passes through a square or border that blocks line of effect or provides cover, or through a square occupied by a creature, the target has cover (+4 to AC)." To visualize, it sometimes help to view the areas as cubes rather than squares, and/or to view the participants as medium & large (instead of small and medium). what about standing behind a halfling? That would constitute low, soft cover.