Cover Problem [Archive] - Wizards Community

Cover Problem [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Tharr
02-01-07, 01:16 AM Do you player claim the cover bonus or do you just have it.
Got problems with negative four to hit when in melee section.
Basically do you always take negative is now standard.
The rules has nothing then what results not having the negative.
Enderlaand
02-01-07, 10:15 AM I'm sorry, but this is really hard to understand. What are you asking about?
RavenDrake
02-01-07, 10:46 AM He's asking (as far as I can tell) if a player has to claim the cover bonus/penalty, or it's automatically applied to thier rolls.

Cover is determined relative to the attacker and the target, and it is always applied. It takes no special action to get cover bonuses.
tarkin
02-01-07, 10:48 AM I agree, your statement is not understandable.

I think you are asking if players have to do something to benefit from cover.

The answer to that is no, taking cover is not an action, once you have moved to the correct space.
Merestil Haye
02-01-07, 11:48 AM I don't think he's talking about cover. He's referring to the penalty for firing into melee.

That also applies every time two creatures are in melee.
Tharr
02-01-07, 11:58 PM There used be some old rule you could refuse any cover bonus.
Reading there was the rule if you miss by cover bonus you hit cover object.
Main example you hit basically the peasant in the front instead of the target.
Plus if you ignored the minus four you would hit you friends.
RobbyPants
02-02-07, 10:13 AM I think that's an old 2E rule (or perhaps a house-rule relating to that)...

The -4 you take when shooting into a melee is similar to this. It can be overcome with the Precise Shot feat.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Tharr 02-01-07, 01:16 AM	Do you player claim the cover bonus or do you just have it. Got problems with negative four to hit when in melee section. Basically do you always take negative is now standard. The rules has nothing then what results not having the negative.
Enderlaand 02-01-07, 10:15 AM	I'm sorry, but this is really hard to understand. What are you asking about?
RavenDrake 02-01-07, 10:46 AM	He's asking (as far as I can tell) if a player has to claim the cover bonus/penalty, or it's automatically applied to thier rolls. Cover is determined relative to the attacker and the target, and it is always applied. It takes no special action to get cover bonuses.
tarkin 02-01-07, 10:48 AM	I agree, your statement is not understandable. I think you are asking if players have to do something to benefit from cover. The answer to that is no, taking cover is not an action, once you have moved to the correct space.
Merestil Haye 02-01-07, 11:48 AM	I don't think he's talking about cover. He's referring to the penalty for firing into melee. That also applies every time two creatures are in melee.
Tharr 02-01-07, 11:58 PM	There used be some old rule you could refuse any cover bonus. Reading there was the rule if you miss by cover bonus you hit cover object. Main example you hit basically the peasant in the front instead of the target. Plus if you ignored the minus four you would hit you friends.
RobbyPants 02-02-07, 10:13 AM	I think that's an old 2E rule (or perhaps a house-rule relating to that)... The -4 you take when shooting into a melee is similar to this. It can be overcome with the Precise Shot feat.