Crafting Celestial Armor... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Crafting Celestial Armor... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Potato Weasel
02-05-07, 07:31 AM Hey, I have a quick question on celestial armor, namely, why is it such a low caster level?

I mean, the dmg states that for straight armor boosts (+1 +2, etc) an item gets a caster level equal to three times the armor bonus. Now, celestial armor, funky super light chainmail +3 that allows you to fly, -and- allows you to use a max dex bonus of +8, only has a caster level of 5, as opposed to 9.

Now, this means I can craft it at fifth level, whereas if i want to craft a normal +3 chain shirt, I have to wait till ninth.

What???

I'm thinking that this was purely to limit the duration of the fly spell that it can cast.

In game reasoning- celestials just want better PR.
Nezkrul
02-05-07, 09:56 AM i believe the caster level of 5th is referring to the armor's fly spell; you would still use the rules for crafting armor to make it. The reason it says fifth is because that is the minimum required CL for fly. You need a caster level of 9th to make celestial armor.
risner
02-05-07, 12:28 PM I'd agree.
jaelis
02-05-07, 12:36 PM In fact, an item's caster level has pretty much nothing to do with the required level of the caster who creates it. When making a custom item, you can set the item CL to be anything you want (up to 20, I guess). For instance, a level 3 wizard can make sovereign glue, a CL 20 item.

The actual prerequisite level is what is needed to cast the prereq spells, have the prereq skill ranks, or meet the weapon/armor enhancement bonus requirement. So for the case of celestial armor, that is definitely CL 9.

Why would a level 9 caster limit the fly effect to CL 5? That I don't know. Presumably, a higher CL would cost more.

It's also not obvious to me if you tried to suppress celestial armor with dispel magic, whether you should use CL 5 or CL 9 for the check.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Potato Weasel 02-05-07, 07:31 AM	Hey, I have a quick question on celestial armor, namely, why is it such a low caster level? I mean, the dmg states that for straight armor boosts (+1 +2, etc) an item gets a caster level equal to three times the armor bonus. Now, celestial armor, funky super light chainmail +3 that allows you to fly, -and- allows you to use a max dex bonus of +8, only has a caster level of 5, as opposed to 9. Now, this means I can craft it at fifth level, whereas if i want to craft a normal +3 chain shirt, I have to wait till ninth. What??? I'm thinking that this was purely to limit the duration of the fly spell that it can cast. In game reasoning- celestials just want better PR.
Nezkrul 02-05-07, 09:56 AM	i believe the caster level of 5th is referring to the armor's fly spell; you would still use the rules for crafting armor to make it. The reason it says fifth is because that is the minimum required CL for fly. You need a caster level of 9th to make celestial armor.
risner 02-05-07, 12:28 PM	I'd agree.
jaelis 02-05-07, 12:36 PM	In fact, an item's caster level has pretty much nothing to do with the required level of the caster who creates it. When making a custom item, you can set the item CL to be anything you want (up to 20, I guess). For instance, a level 3 wizard can make sovereign glue, a CL 20 item. The actual prerequisite level is what is needed to cast the prereq spells, have the prereq skill ranks, or meet the weapon/armor enhancement bonus requirement. So for the case of celestial armor, that is definitely CL 9. Why would a level 9 caster limit the fly effect to CL 5? That I don't know. Presumably, a higher CL would cost more. It's also not obvious to me if you tried to suppress celestial armor with dispel magic, whether you should use CL 5 or CL 9 for the check.