Crafting Rules [Archive] - Wizards Community

Crafting Rules [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Sakusami
11-06-06, 07:05 PM Okay, I am currently playing an artificer and have a couple of questions.

Something that I was told by a friend to make is "Goggles of Use Magic Device + 20"

I was astounded that I could create something like that at lvl 10, but he said I should be more than able. Then he said it should only cost me somewhere between 10 and 20k gold.

Well, looking on the rules at the website I saw a little section on a "Ring of True Strike" Now that was placed somewhere in the 400k gold range and I could see why. But that bonus it provides is a bonus to attacking, the bonus on the goggles would be for a skill bonus. Does this change the cost so drastically? Or is my friend just 100% completely wrong?

Any help and ideas for artificers that plan to weild wands/staffs and be crafters is also appreciated. Thanks

~Sakusami
MachinaDeus
11-06-06, 08:05 PM Typically, bonuses to Attack rolls are (or at least supposed to be) more expensive than bonuses to skills, hence the significant cost of a "Ring of Truestrike". As far as basic rules creation guidelines go, your friend is right about being able to make your "goggles of Use Magic Device+20" for a relatively smaller amount of money. But remember that any new item created, and its cost, is up to your DM.
Platonix
11-06-06, 08:45 PM But remember that any new item created, and its cost, is up to your DM.
True, true. A +20 to Use Magic Device is quite a bit more powerful than a +20 to, say, Spot, since having such a hefty bonus on UMD permanently opens the way to a whole lot of magic item abuse. I would fully understand a DM calling for UMD to cost twice as much as other skills. Maybe more.
risner
11-06-06, 08:56 PM Something that I was told by a friend to make is "Goggles of Use Magic Device + 20"

By the rules UMD+20 would be:
20*20*100 = 40,000 gp minimum

Also, most of the items that grant bonuses have a pre-req of:

the same number of skill ranks
OR
a spell that grants +10 competence
OR
a race that might be thought to be good at that skill.

This leads to a precedence of requiring ranks or similar to grant a bonus.
That would mean your Goggles would need be made by a 17th level player (or NPC) with 20 ranks in UMD.

However, there is no direct rule which leads many to debate if the ranks should be required. I require them because it makes sense.

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Sakusami 11-06-06, 07:05 PM	Okay, I am currently playing an artificer and have a couple of questions. Something that I was told by a friend to make is "Goggles of Use Magic Device + 20" I was astounded that I could create something like that at lvl 10, but he said I should be more than able. Then he said it should only cost me somewhere between 10 and 20k gold. Well, looking on the rules at the website I saw a little section on a "Ring of True Strike" Now that was placed somewhere in the 400k gold range and I could see why. But that bonus it provides is a bonus to attacking, the bonus on the goggles would be for a skill bonus. Does this change the cost so drastically? Or is my friend just 100% completely wrong? Any help and ideas for artificers that plan to weild wands/staffs and be crafters is also appreciated. Thanks ~Sakusami
MachinaDeus 11-06-06, 08:05 PM	Typically, bonuses to Attack rolls are (or at least supposed to be) more expensive than bonuses to skills, hence the significant cost of a "Ring of Truestrike". As far as basic rules creation guidelines go, your friend is right about being able to make your "goggles of Use Magic Device+20" for a relatively smaller amount of money. But remember that any new item created, and its cost, is up to your DM.
Platonix 11-06-06, 08:45 PM	But remember that any new item created, and its cost, is up to your DM. True, true. A +20 to Use Magic Device is quite a bit more powerful than a +20 to, say, Spot, since having such a hefty bonus on UMD permanently opens the way to a whole lot of magic item abuse. I would fully understand a DM calling for UMD to cost twice as much as other skills. Maybe more.
risner 11-06-06, 08:56 PM	Something that I was told by a friend to make is "Goggles of Use Magic Device + 20" By the rules UMD+20 would be: 2020100 = 40,000 gp minimum Also, most of the items that grant bonuses have a pre-req of: the same number of skill ranks OR a spell that grants +10 competence OR a race that might be thought to be good at that skill. This leads to a precedence of requiring ranks or similar to grant a bonus. That would mean your Goggles would need be made by a 17th level player (or NPC) with 20 ranks in UMD. However, there is no direct rule which leads many to debate if the ranks should be required. I require them because it makes sense.