Create your very own Water-World [Archive] - Wizards Community

Create your very own Water-World [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Reddrakk
04-20-08, 04:19 PM I don't know if this has been mentioned in the forums before.

A single decanter of endless water, set on geyser, would produce 1.5 million gallons of water in a single year. Since there is no limit on how long the item can remain activated and it draws its water from an infinite source (elemental plane of water), you could eventually submerge the world.

My friend and I figured you could get 30 of them, secure them underwater at places near the poles of any given world and melt the ice caps while you're at it. 45 million gallons of water from 30 decanters flowing up into icebergs and ice shelfs.
Psionx
04-20-08, 05:24 PM With 365 of them it could be done in a single day!!! 8760 in an hour!!! 525600 in a minute!!! 5256000 for a round!!! :evillaugh
Reddrakk
04-20-08, 05:43 PM True. But I wouldn't put that many down there. If you did hundreds it's more likely that one would be found and some hero would stop you. Accidentally coming across just one of 30 would be tougher. Not to mention that the loss of the ice caps and rising of the seas over a period of one or two decades would seem less suspicious than the seas violently rising over the course of a year or day. Finally, you would have a better chance of hiding the purchase of 30 decanters than you would the sudden demand on the market that 100+ would incur.
Rulebook
04-20-08, 06:29 PM this of course only works in a world where the local deities dont care what happens to thier world and people...
Awesome_Dude
04-20-08, 08:28 PM Great. Now all you guys have to do is figure out how to create a mutated Kevin Costner and you're set.
Reddrakk
05-07-08, 11:40 PM It seems I underestimated how long it would take. 30 of these flasks would create about 45 million gallons of water per year. The Disney World aquarium holds something like 5 or 6 million gallons. Even with the water increasing current around the ice caps and melting them, you probably wouldn't get much in the way of noticeable results in less than 10-15 years. As for submerging the world, probably half a century or the like? I don't have the numbers on how much water the oceans hold, the water locked up in ice, and how much water would be needed to submerge the landmasses (taking into account the currents eating away the tips of mountains and the like).

Still, 50 years to destroy the human race isn't bad. As for gods, this wouldn't work in a world where gods cared about mortals. So it only works either in an Eberron-like world where gods don't care or in an epic world where the gods were taken care of.
mvincent
05-08-08, 12:56 PM My friend and I figured you could get 30 of them, secure them underwater at places near the poles of any given world and melt the ice caps while you're at it. 45 million gallons of water from 30 decanters flowing up into icebergs and ice shelfs.The calculations have been done before, and as I recall it would take thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of years for 30 decanters to flood the earth (assuming no heroes stepped in to stop it). As for melting the icecaps, that's a new twist (which draws analogies to our own world). I reckon the mage's guild (or maybe some gods) would take interest before too much coastline is lost though.

And then there is the water elementals that may not like you draining off water from their plane.
Reddrakk
05-13-08, 10:28 PM That's the beauty of it, the plane of water is infinite. Some local elementals would be annoyed, but there wouldn't be a change to the elemental plane since infinite space = infinite water. Thanks for the advice on estimated time till apocalypse! I suppose some other magic would be needed if you wanted to destroy the world in a timely manner. On the other hand, if you had the patience to wait a couple thousand years, species like humans and elves might not notice until it was almost too late. It would be so slow and gradual, the short lived races might lose the old geographic details to history.
1 ton ghost
05-14-08, 11:16 AM Divine intervention and all (loss of worshipers and thusly, loss of power) is probably the easiest counter-measure, but I'm sure, even acquatic races would put an end to it. That is, if you flood the planet completely, alot of them will die out too. Symbiant circles and all that.

Even the evil ones. They need slaves, food, treasure from the land. Trade goods and weapons (how do you forge [w/out magic] underwater?), etc. No land means no timber for ships. That's gonna' motivate alot of ppl. Plenty of sea elves would try and stop it as a point of loyalty to their surface brethern.
Terran and Ignan elements, both native and offworld would probably take notice and offense and orchestrate some countermeasures to secure their spheres of influence. Being largely Neutral too, balance is balance in the natural world which woudl bring up whole cabals of druids that would wan tot put an end to this (effectively killing most of the planet's life), not to mention other magi that might be understandably pi$$ed about a slow motion apocalypse.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Reddrakk 04-20-08, 04:19 PM	I don't know if this has been mentioned in the forums before. A single decanter of endless water, set on geyser, would produce 1.5 million gallons of water in a single year. Since there is no limit on how long the item can remain activated and it draws its water from an infinite source (elemental plane of water), you could eventually submerge the world. My friend and I figured you could get 30 of them, secure them underwater at places near the poles of any given world and melt the ice caps while you're at it. 45 million gallons of water from 30 decanters flowing up into icebergs and ice shelfs.
Psionx 04-20-08, 05:24 PM	With 365 of them it could be done in a single day!!! 8760 in an hour!!! 525600 in a minute!!! 5256000 for a round!!! :evillaugh
Reddrakk 04-20-08, 05:43 PM	True. But I wouldn't put that many down there. If you did hundreds it's more likely that one would be found and some hero would stop you. Accidentally coming across just one of 30 would be tougher. Not to mention that the loss of the ice caps and rising of the seas over a period of one or two decades would seem less suspicious than the seas violently rising over the course of a year or day. Finally, you would have a better chance of hiding the purchase of 30 decanters than you would the sudden demand on the market that 100+ would incur.
Rulebook 04-20-08, 06:29 PM	this of course only works in a world where the local deities dont care what happens to thier world and people...
Awesome_Dude 04-20-08, 08:28 PM	Great. Now all you guys have to do is figure out how to create a mutated Kevin Costner and you're set.
Reddrakk 05-07-08, 11:40 PM	It seems I underestimated how long it would take. 30 of these flasks would create about 45 million gallons of water per year. The Disney World aquarium holds something like 5 or 6 million gallons. Even with the water increasing current around the ice caps and melting them, you probably wouldn't get much in the way of noticeable results in less than 10-15 years. As for submerging the world, probably half a century or the like? I don't have the numbers on how much water the oceans hold, the water locked up in ice, and how much water would be needed to submerge the landmasses (taking into account the currents eating away the tips of mountains and the like). Still, 50 years to destroy the human race isn't bad. As for gods, this wouldn't work in a world where gods cared about mortals. So it only works either in an Eberron-like world where gods don't care or in an epic world where the gods were taken care of.
mvincent 05-08-08, 12:56 PM	My friend and I figured you could get 30 of them, secure them underwater at places near the poles of any given world and melt the ice caps while you're at it. 45 million gallons of water from 30 decanters flowing up into icebergs and ice shelfs.The calculations have been done before, and as I recall it would take thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of years for 30 decanters to flood the earth (assuming no heroes stepped in to stop it). As for melting the icecaps, that's a new twist (which draws analogies to our own world). I reckon the mage's guild (or maybe some gods) would take interest before too much coastline is lost though. And then there is the water elementals that may not like you draining off water from their plane.
Reddrakk 05-13-08, 10:28 PM	That's the beauty of it, the plane of water is infinite. Some local elementals would be annoyed, but there wouldn't be a change to the elemental plane since infinite space = infinite water. Thanks for the advice on estimated time till apocalypse! I suppose some other magic would be needed if you wanted to destroy the world in a timely manner. On the other hand, if you had the patience to wait a couple thousand years, species like humans and elves might not notice until it was almost too late. It would be so slow and gradual, the short lived races might lose the old geographic details to history.
1 ton ghost 05-14-08, 11:16 AM	Divine intervention and all (loss of worshipers and thusly, loss of power) is probably the easiest counter-measure, but I'm sure, even acquatic races would put an end to it. That is, if you flood the planet completely, alot of them will die out too. Symbiant circles and all that. Even the evil ones. They need slaves, food, treasure from the land. Trade goods and weapons (how do you forge [w/out magic] underwater?), etc. No land means no timber for ships. That's gonna' motivate alot of ppl. Plenty of sea elves would try and stop it as a point of loyalty to their surface brethern. Terran and Ignan elements, both native and offworld would probably take notice and offense and orchestrate some countermeasures to secure their spheres of influence. Being largely Neutral too, balance is balance in the natural world which woudl bring up whole cabals of druids that would wan tot put an end to this (effectively killing most of the planet's life), not to mention other magi that might be understandably pi$$ed about a slow motion apocalypse.