Critical Hits & Concealment... [Archive] - Wizards Community

Critical Hits & Concealment... [Archive] - Wizards Community

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GoofBaali
06-25-06, 05:14 AM A quick question regarding... You guessed right, critical hits and how they function when used against a creature with complete concealment.

Can anyone give me a clue as to how to determine critical hits against invisible creatures (or players for that matter). Does concealment grant the 50% miss chance even on a roll of natural 20? or perhaps afford a 50% miss chance on the threat confirmation roll?

Thanks
Dheran
06-25-06, 05:18 AM There's a 50% miss chance. It's simpler to roll this first, rather than spending the time to roll multiple d20s before finding out that you made a successful critical against the air in your concealed opponent's square.
GoofBaali
06-25-06, 05:24 AM Thanks for the answer,

Is there any place in a source book that specifically states this or just the section on concealment giving a 50% miss chance?
Nom
06-25-06, 07:53 AM "If the attack hits, the defender must make a miss chance percentile roll to avoid being struck" (PH pg 152). The miss chance roll negates the hit ("struck"). A critical roll is not a separate attack, but part of the single hit. You either completely miss or you completely hit.

For a comment on concealment and 20s, see PH pg 142: "If the concealment roll indicates a 'miss', just ignore the attack roll". If you're ignoring the attack roll, it doesn't matter whether it was a 20, a 1, or anything in between.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
GoofBaali 06-25-06, 05:14 AM	A quick question regarding... You guessed right, critical hits and how they function when used against a creature with complete concealment. Can anyone give me a clue as to how to determine critical hits against invisible creatures (or players for that matter). Does concealment grant the 50% miss chance even on a roll of natural 20? or perhaps afford a 50% miss chance on the threat confirmation roll? Thanks
Dheran 06-25-06, 05:18 AM	There's a 50% miss chance. It's simpler to roll this first, rather than spending the time to roll multiple d20s before finding out that you made a successful critical against the air in your concealed opponent's square.
GoofBaali 06-25-06, 05:24 AM	Thanks for the answer, Is there any place in a source book that specifically states this or just the section on concealment giving a 50% miss chance?
Nom 06-25-06, 07:53 AM	"If the attack hits, the defender must make a miss chance percentile roll to avoid being struck" (PH pg 152). The miss chance roll negates the hit ("struck"). A critical roll is not a separate attack, but part of the single hit. You either completely miss or you completely hit. For a comment on concealment and 20s, see PH pg 142: "If the concealment roll indicates a 'miss', just ignore the attack roll". If you're ignoring the attack roll, it doesn't matter whether it was a 20, a 1, or anything in between.