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Deviston 09-14-06, 06:14 PM	Any clothing article can be made into Dagger Armor. Add 50 gp to the base price of the article for the extra cloth and concealment issues (25 if not concealed) The subject places daggers in hidden pockets in the cloth (still accesable, standard actino to draw, quick draw can make it a move action) to have armor. For every 5 daggers on your person, you have one point of AC. This is an armor bonus. It goes up to 5 AC where it then become Medium Armor. Should you use a dagger that composes your armor, it reduces your AC bonus. Use one, goes down one. Use two, still only one, but use a total of 6 it goes down two. Get it? +1 AC as Padded Armor +2 AC as Leather Armor +3 AC as Studded Leather Armor +4 AC as Scale Mail (But still Light Armor) +5 AC as Chain Mail For every AC point, it correlates with standard PHB armor of the same AC # with following differences... Check Penalty +/- 0 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 Dex Bonus -1 ASF +5% (Weight as per standard for carrying daggers +1 lb for the extra cloth in the article's creation) For every set of five daggers that are Masterwork it reduces the Armor Check Penalty by one (which can not reduce it below an additional -1) (Thanks to Nezkrul for the name.)
dengarbountyhunter 09-14-06, 09:00 PM	That's special. When I first read the title, I asked myself if you were talking about an armor COMPLETELY made of daggers or a spell. Then I read about the part where you could hide daggers on your body and thought "oh, it's just a kind of integretade bandolier or something"... And now I wonder how you came with this strange but nonetheless worthy of discussion concept. I thought you'd just like to know how people felt about it. Well it's exactly what i written. It is balanced with the PHB's armor sets and even underpowered for each individual option, but I think the versatility offsets it. It only makes sense if it can only be used on any SET of clothing (not any clothing article), though. A scarf giving a +5 armor bonus for hiding daggers in it? I think that's what you meant anyway, but I just wanted to be sure... The concept is great in fact and you could use as a base to ruling individual pieces of armour, like an incomplete fullplate, or continue the progression further.
__DnD4Life__ 09-14-06, 11:21 PM	Wow. That is a very original idea. I like it. It sounds like excellent armor for a rogue, and even better, sounds balanced. I think magic enhancements will be tricky though...what if the daggers are magic?
Nezkrul 09-15-06, 11:39 AM	kudos for putting the legendary idea of "Daggermail" on paper :D its been around and laughed it when you think about the rogues that buy and carry 20+ daggers to chuck around hehehehe Where DO they put all those anyways? :D
Deviston 09-18-06, 05:01 PM	Mkay! Wow, such good feedback im shocked! thanks all! Set of clothing . . . heh, that IS what i meant, thanks for helping me out there. Magical enhancements have nothing to do with the daggers. i think ill set it up like this. the suit costs whatever the cost is for the outfit and the pockets and such cost for padded armor. magical mean paying the extra 150 for masterwork "pockets" and such for your "padded armor". enhancelike normal. with one proviso however. should you expend your daggers, aka not have enough to recieve one Armor Class bonus, the "padded armor" conveys no magical benefit to the wearer. once enough daggers are inserted, the magic conveys once again. That soud good to yall?
HauptSin 09-18-06, 06:18 PM	Having MW daggers lessen the armor check makes no sense to me. The daggers are finely made, very sharp, and sit well in the hand. How does this make them less awkward when imbedded in your clothing? :p I say make the gear housing the daggers MW to reduce the penalty. Like the daggers fit into the gear with wicked-awesome balance and synergy.
Deviston 09-18-06, 10:20 PM	I saw it like this, they are expertly crafted, smooth against eachother, slide with ease in the pocket and nicely snugled in the pockets.