Post/Author/DateTime	Post
karian nightblade 05-04-05, 05:29 PM	As the title states, I have a problem with the drakwood shield with my DM. The shield has an armor check penalty of 0, as you may know. If I use the shield with my rouge, or anyother non-proeficient user, do i take a penalty on my attck rolls? In the player's handbook it says that if you are not proeficient with a shield you take that shield's armor check penalty on attack rolls. so: +15(my attack bonus) -0=+15 he says something about an errata. could you please show me where it is? Am I right? thanks in advance
ehrin 05-04-05, 05:39 PM	errata found here: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a
Tony Vargas 05-04-05, 06:43 PM	You're still non-proficient, but the penalty you face is -0. Even if you were proficient, you'd face the same staggering -0 penalty while sneaking around or using other skills the ACP aplies to - in fact, it would be doubled, to -0, with regards to the Swim skill. I'm not aware of any errata or ruling that would change that - but nothing stops your DM from rule-0'ing in an exception, like a minimum -1 (or higher) non-proficiency penalty.
tiercel 05-04-05, 08:45 PM	Even worse is the mithral buckler; armor check penalty -0, arcane spell failure chance 0%. Not only can rogues use it without a problem, so can wizards/sorcerers. Many DMs balk at this, but is allowable by the RAW.
karian nightblade 05-05-05, 02:04 PM	ok, thanks guys. i didn't find anything in the 3rd version player's handbook, so i guess i'm getting the shield! thanks for the erratas anyway