Death From Massive Damage [Archive] - Wizards Community

Death From Massive Damage [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Farland
01-17-05, 10:16 AM Does massive damage apply only to melee and ranged attacks, or must one make a FORT save for damage from spells and other sources also.
Shadowfax7
01-17-05, 10:21 AM All sources of lethal damage.
Gilean
01-17-05, 01:01 PM Including Harm.
Evil Bob
01-17-05, 01:12 PM Including Harm.
Actually, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Harm does not really deal damage, it just reduces hit points, if you see what I mean. Plus, that would make Harm waaaaaaaay more overpowered than spells of corresponding level. FInger of Death is a seventh level spell, save or die, and successful save deals 3d6+caster level damage. Harm is around sixth or seventh level, has no saving throw (if memory serves) and anyone hit with Harm must save vs. massive damage or die? That's overpowered, all right.
Shadowfax7
01-17-05, 02:41 PM Gilean is correct, check out the 3.5 FAQ. It specifically states that a Harm spell is subject to massive damage.

However, it was also stated that it's not the way it was meant to be and it was suggested to either don't allow it or house rule it differently.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Farland 01-17-05, 10:16 AM	Does massive damage apply only to melee and ranged attacks, or must one make a FORT save for damage from spells and other sources also.
Shadowfax7 01-17-05, 10:21 AM	All sources of lethal damage.
Gilean 01-17-05, 01:01 PM	Including Harm.
Evil Bob 01-17-05, 01:12 PM	Including Harm. Actually, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Harm does not really deal damage, it just reduces hit points, if you see what I mean. Plus, that would make Harm waaaaaaaay more overpowered than spells of corresponding level. FInger of Death is a seventh level spell, save or die, and successful save deals 3d6+caster level damage. Harm is around sixth or seventh level, has no saving throw (if memory serves) and anyone hit with Harm must save vs. massive damage or die? That's overpowered, all right.
Shadowfax7 01-17-05, 02:41 PM	Gilean is correct, check out the 3.5 FAQ. It specifically states that a Harm spell is subject to massive damage. However, it was also stated that it's not the way it was meant to be and it was suggested to either don't allow it or house rule it differently.