Post/Author/DateTime	Post
GreenKnight 01-19-08, 12:33 PM	Just wondering. So did they? And if so, which books? Thanks.
1 ton ghost 01-19-08, 01:35 PM	no, because it's retarded (IMO). the concept is so bombastic and phony, it just seems daft. they left this as is in 3.0's Arms and Equip Guide, a truly excellent book w/ a few snags, this being a major one. not trying to rain on your parade, i mean, you like them otherwise you wouldn't be asking, it's just i find the concept/design fake/dangerous. ie) what happens when it is Sundered? i know there aren't rules for mercury poisoning, but this is alot of mercury, not just a thermometer's worth. even if it wasn't sundered, iron and steel are somewhat permeable. even surgical titanium is. i suppose it's possible, though not likely from casual weapon use, a Ftr could go slowly insane like a hatter; hence the Mad Hatter (Alice in....) as they used mercury to treat beaver pelts/furs for hats. w/ gloves, and limited combat (you're not fighting 24/7 w/ this weapon) you should be alright, but prolonged exposure...
Spikes01k 01-19-08, 02:24 PM	no, because it's retarded (IMO). the concept is so bombastic and phony, it just seems daft. they left this as is in 3.0's Arms and Equip Guide, a truly excellent book w/ a few snags, this being a major one. not trying to rain on your parade, i mean, you like them otherwise you wouldn't be asking, it's just i find the concept/design fake/dangerous. ie) what happens when it is Sundered? i know there aren't rules for mercury poisoning, but this is alot of mercury, not just a thermometer's worth. even if it wasn't sundered, iron and steel are somewhat permeable. even surgical titanium is. i suppose it's possible, though not likely from casual weapon use, a Ftr could go slowly insane like a hatter; hence the Mad Hatter (Alice in....) as they used mercury to treat beaver pelts/furs for hats. w/ gloves, and limited combat (you're not fighting 24/7 w/ this weapon) you should be alright, but prolonged exposure... You know there is a thing called magic that could make it work....:thinks:
ZiggZagg 01-19-08, 02:28 PM	Yes, but as a regular weapon there is nothing magical about it. I agree with his statments in the fact that it just doesn't seem right to have it implemented that way.
kalstrand 01-19-08, 02:30 PM	The latest rules appeared in the Arms and Equipment guide which is 3.0. The stats it gives are the same as the normal version but the crit changes to 20x4.
mplindustries 01-19-08, 02:38 PM	You know there is a thing called magic that could make it work....:thinks: If you're already using magic to make a mercury filled sword safe to use, why not just use magic to make the sword swing harder instead of using mercury in the first place? ;P
Spikes01k 01-19-08, 11:27 PM	If you're already using magic to make a mercury filled sword safe to use, why not just use magic to make the sword swing harder instead of using mercury in the first place? ;P Because it is easier to do it that way.
turalisj 01-19-08, 11:58 PM	To answer the OP, no it has not been updated. I would have to agree with 1TG, the whole idea is silly. Of course, most items pre-1900 (or even 1950) had tons of toxic stuff in it (lead pipes, pencils, paint, etc)
TifRhal 01-20-08, 05:29 PM	in my dojo we have a thick bladed sword that has a lead slug at the end man that baby will make you work for it but once its in motion when you hit something it massive damage. Not really a Mercurial weapon but it does add some mean damage.
AtsuiShoto 01-21-08, 12:55 AM	Constantly flexing steel responds very badly to liquid metal exposure. Certain fairly unusual alloys can help the steel's resistance to such damage, but any steel under those conditions would quickly become brittle and eventually downright fragile.
Traverse 01-21-08, 10:50 AM	Just noticed that there's an update for the Mercurial quality over on The Waking Lands (http://www.wakinglands.com/htm_files/equipment.htm) about 1/3 of the way down the page. I never liked mercurial either, but I take Liquette's updates as wholly awesome. If he thought it was worthy of a textual update then so be it.
unundindur 01-21-08, 11:10 AM	I just want to point out that stat-wise the sword isn't that far off. We already have the great falchion in the Sandstorm book that deal 2d6, 18-20/*2 as an exotic weapon. As far as I can tell, that should be the same as 2d6, 20/*4.
UAMDB 01-21-08, 11:29 AM	no, because it's retarded (IMO). the concept is so bombastic and phony, it just seems daft. they left this as is in 3.0's Arms and Equip Guide, a truly excellent book w/ a few snags, this being a major one. not trying to rain on your parade, i mean, you like them otherwise you wouldn't be asking, it's just i find the concept/design fake/dangerous. ie) what happens when it is Sundered? i know there aren't rules for mercury poisoning, but this is alot of mercury, not just a thermometer's worth. even if it wasn't sundered, iron and steel are somewhat permeable. even surgical titanium is. i suppose it's possible, though not likely from casual weapon use, a Ftr could go slowly insane like a hatter; hence the Mad Hatter (Alice in....) as they used mercury to treat beaver pelts/furs for hats. w/ gloves, and limited combat (you're not fighting 24/7 w/ this weapon) you should be alright, but prolonged exposure... I just want to point out one thing. Mercury posioning is dangerous. However, it is not so dangerous that if you touch it you will die. It takes prolonged exposure for it to become fatal. "Doctors" in the first Dynisty in China use to give mercury as a cure all to the Emperior. It killed him, but not until after years, and I mean decades of exposure. he would take mercury almost everyday.
mvincent 01-21-08, 03:09 PM	i find the concept/design fake/dangerous. ie) what happens when it is Sundered? i know there aren't rules for mercury poisoning, but this is alot of mercury, not just a thermometer's worth.The lack of consideration in regard to mercury poisoning is your main problem with these weapons? Compared to everything else in D&D? :uh-huh: ... heck, chances are that one's own dental fillings are likely made with mercury...:twitch: