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McBard 02-26-05, 02:22 AM	A character with a speed of 30' begins a charge versus a foe 60' away. After the charger has moved 40', an archer (who had readied an attack against the charging character) attacks and does enough damage to render the charger disabled (technically limiting him now to a single standard action or a single move action). Questions: is the charging character allowed to finish the charge? Or does the disabled condition apply immediately, and thus preempt the full-round charge the charger has found himself in?
Santrilla 02-26-05, 05:03 AM	I'd say they drop where they are. Maybe a fort save would let them finish the charge.
murte 02-26-05, 09:02 AM	Condition goes into effect immediately. So the full round action is no longer available to him, and since he has already moved his move speed or greater, his turn is over.
Shadowfax7 02-26-05, 10:07 AM	I agree with Murte, but wanted to clarify something . . . Are we to presume that the archer readied an action to "shoot an arrow at anyone coming within 20'', otherwise why would the archer not shoot his arrow as soon as the charger started charging ?? Remember readied actions are completed prior to the act that triggered them. This would not make a difference to the answer of your question, but had the archer been within 30' the charger still would of been able to complete his charge attack even though disabled (however, he would of collapsed at -1 afterwards).
Dyne Burgwing 02-26-05, 10:21 AM	All readied actions against another character take place before the initiative of the triggering action. In your example if the archer reading the action against the character who is charging, then the archer goes just before him and the charging character doesn't even start the charge. How ever on a different note, if the charaging character provoked an attack of oppertunity from the defending character the AOO would take place after the attack with a -2 to his AC Dyne Burgwing
McBard 02-26-05, 11:53 AM	Thanks for the replies. Are we to presume that the archer readied an action to "shoot an arrow at anyone coming within 20'', otherwise why would the archer not shoot his arrow as soon as the charger started charging ?? Let's assume that the archer had readied an action "to shoot when the next foe leaves square X", and that the next foe was the charger, and square X was the square he charged into after having moved 40'. That's a good point to have clarified--thanks Shadowfax7. Furthermore, the PHB says that "the [readied] action occurs just before the action that triggers it" (p. 160, emphasis mine), and that "if the triggered action is part of another character's activities, you interrupt the other character." That is, the archer's above readied action was "to shoot the next foe that leaves square X", and so the archer shoots just before the charger leaves square X. Interestingly, the PHB goes on to say (and I suppose I could have saved us some time by looking here first, huh?): "Assuming [the interrupted character] is still capable of doing so, he continues his actions once you complete your readied action." This pretty much answers it: the now disabled character is not capable of completing the full-round charge, and so may not continue. After having read through the entire "Readying an Action" section (p. 160), my above scenario would break down like this (with hypothetical intitiative counts added this time): Initiative 17: Archer readys an action "to shoot next foe leaving square X" Initiative 10: The charger begins his charge and moves 40', attempting to leave square X near the end of his charge. INTERRUPTED 10: Archer completes his readied action and disables charger; charger must stop in square X. Lastly, the archer's initiative count changes: "for the rest of the encounter, your initiative result is the count on which you took the readied action, and you act immediately ahead of the character whose action triggered your readied action." The archer now acts on Initiative 10A, if you will, and the charger right after him on Initiative 10B.