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thannider 04-30-05, 03:53 AM	I seldom visit this board, so hopefully I'm not asking a frequent question. In one of the games I'm involved in, one of the players is using an animated shield. Because it has a +4 enhancement bonus, sundering it wasn't an option, and his foe decided to disarm it instead. So, the question that came up, and which I thought I'd ask others' opinions on, was whether a character can be disarmed of an animated shield floating next to him.
Callahan 04-30-05, 04:20 AM	well it's basicly treated as though you are using the shield while it is flying around you. So in theory you should be able to disarm him/her as though you were "Grabbing Items".
K_Man 04-30-05, 12:26 PM	Also, have your trusty Cleric/Mage Dispe/Greater Dispel it for a while. It would then just be a really expensive paperweight lying on the ground.
thannider 04-30-05, 02:28 PM	While tactical advice is appreciated, dispelling isn't an option. I've already ruled on the situation and the game has moved on. I'm simply looking for opinions on what the correct ruling is, for future instances. Anyone else have an opinion? If you think Callahan's interpretation is incorrect, what would the answer be? If he's right, please post to let me know that you agree with him.
Elthbert 04-30-05, 02:41 PM	I would agree with him, however I would probably give it set stats agianst disarm, it seems animated shield should be just as hard to pull away from a 1st level 10 str commoner as the hulking 10th level 22str barbarian. because it is the magic holding it there. I'd have to think about the bonuses I would give it.
Tenier 04-30-05, 06:35 PM	I would agree with him, however I would probably give it set stats agianst disarm, it seems animated shield should be just as hard to pull away from a 1st level 10 str commoner as the hulking 10th level 22str barbarian. because it is the magic holding it there. I'd have to think about the bonuses I would give it. Except perhaps that I would tread more carefully around a 10th level Barbarian... :)
Fenris Frost 05-01-05, 08:27 PM	You also have to realize that because it's animated, it probably isn't going to stand still while you try to take it. Perhaps you have to make a touch attack against it's shield bonus + magic bonus + wielder's DEX (maybe) +10.
PhaedrusXY 05-01-05, 11:25 PM	In one of the games I'm involved in, one of the players is using an animated shield. Because it has a +4 enhancement bonus, sundering it wasn't an option, and his foe decided to disarm it instead.You don't need an equal or higher enhancement bonus to sunder an enchanted object. This is an error in one of the books, but it was clarified in an Errata or FAQ to not be the case. Having a higher enhancement bonus just gives an item more hardness and hit points, but you can still sunder it with a plain old non-magical sword, if you can swing it hard enough.
thannider 05-02-05, 01:42 AM	Hmm, that's true. I'd missed the deletion of that sentence in the errata. Thanks for pointing that out PhaedrusXY!
Tsuul 05-02-05, 09:08 AM	Would you use the rules for a Dancing weapon to resolve this?