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IAS
09-24-07, 10:58 PM Checking the layers of the abyss on the findish codex it appears something very interesting, in the 92th layer of abyss roams a been call Ulgurshek, wich according to wikipedia is a draeden. Wiki tells that draeden are the multiuniverse predators but so far i have not found any mention of them outside wikipidea. Do anybody knows something about those creatures?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draeden
daimyotx
09-27-07, 12:59 PM It actually says "The 92nd layer of the Abyss, known as Ulgurshek, is actually a draeden who lay dormant while the Abyss formed around it."

and when it says that they "predate the universe". it just means that they are older than the known universe.

It also lists reference sources -- Check out:

Jacobs, James, Erik Mona, and Ed Stark. Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss (Wizards of the Coast, 2006).
Mentzer, Frank. Immortals Rules, Dungeon And Dragons Fantasy Role-playing Game Set 5 (ISBN 0-88038-341-0) (TSR, 1986).

Cook, Monte. The Inner Planes (ISBN 0-7869-0736-3) (Wizards of the Coast, 1998)
Shemeska the Marauder
10-03-07, 12:42 AM They were creatures from basic (non Advanced) D&D, ported over from what was a seperate game without a common in-game continuity. As such we have several options on how to rationalize their presence in the in-game continuity of the 1e/2e/3e multiverse:

1) They came to the Great Wheel from another multiverse, very early on in the formation of the planes, and were literally stuck within, surrounded, and in at least one cast imprisoned by its (to them alien) expanding reality.

2) They existed native to the void of the prime material prior to the formation of its myriad worlds and stars, or within some hypothetical void that constituted the metaphysical "space" later filled by the outer planes prior to the metaphysical abstracts of alignment entering the multiverse as manifest things (ala the baernaloth history of the formation of the cardinal alignment planes).

3) They exist as refugees or survivors of an earlier incarnation of the multiverse, or perhaps as survivors of a collapsed timeline of the current multiverse (similar to what the LeShay claim of their own now non-existant history).

Mona and Jacobs' nod to the draedens in FC:I was pretty inspired, (and IIRC, Rip might have wormed something into one of their heads in regards to the Draedens in the first place) and I gave a little nod to it in turn by inserting the Demiplane of Draedenden into Dragon 353.

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IAS 09-24-07, 10:58 PM	Checking the layers of the abyss on the findish codex it appears something very interesting, in the 92th layer of abyss roams a been call Ulgurshek, wich according to wikipedia is a draeden. Wiki tells that draeden are the multiuniverse predators but so far i have not found any mention of them outside wikipidea. Do anybody knows something about those creatures? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draeden
daimyotx 09-27-07, 12:59 PM	It actually says "The 92nd layer of the Abyss, known as Ulgurshek, is actually a draeden who lay dormant while the Abyss formed around it." and when it says that they "predate the universe". it just means that they are older than the known universe. It also lists reference sources -- Check out: Jacobs, James, Erik Mona, and Ed Stark. Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss (Wizards of the Coast, 2006). Mentzer, Frank. Immortals Rules, Dungeon And Dragons Fantasy Role-playing Game Set 5 (ISBN 0-88038-341-0) (TSR, 1986). Cook, Monte. The Inner Planes (ISBN 0-7869-0736-3) (Wizards of the Coast, 1998)
Shemeska the Marauder 10-03-07, 12:42 AM	They were creatures from basic (non Advanced) D&D, ported over from what was a seperate game without a common in-game continuity. As such we have several options on how to rationalize their presence in the in-game continuity of the 1e/2e/3e multiverse: 1) They came to the Great Wheel from another multiverse, very early on in the formation of the planes, and were literally stuck within, surrounded, and in at least one cast imprisoned by its (to them alien) expanding reality. 2) They existed native to the void of the prime material prior to the formation of its myriad worlds and stars, or within some hypothetical void that constituted the metaphysical "space" later filled by the outer planes prior to the metaphysical abstracts of alignment entering the multiverse as manifest things (ala the baernaloth history of the formation of the cardinal alignment planes). 3) They exist as refugees or survivors of an earlier incarnation of the multiverse, or perhaps as survivors of a collapsed timeline of the current multiverse (similar to what the LeShay claim of their own now non-existant history). Mona and Jacobs' nod to the draedens in FC:I was pretty inspired, (and IIRC, Rip might have wormed something into one of their heads in regards to the Draedens in the first place) and I gave a little nod to it in turn by inserting the Demiplane of Draedenden into Dragon 353.