Need good Rogue-Based Melee PrsTc [Archive] - Wizards Community

Need good Rogue-Based Melee PrsTc [Archive] - Wizards Community

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morvegil
06-26-07, 11:52 AM My friend is a rogue, he needs either some fighter levels or a good prestige class that will help him in combat or get more HP.

Thanks,

ps- This is in Faerun, so anything themed would be great.
The_Wrath_of_Talos
06-26-07, 05:26 PM Look into the swashbuckler and rogues dont need hp as long as they stick to what they're good at, "hiding." Otherwise check out the peripat of health for some extra con. All a good rogue really needs is a good int and a great dex.
Dielzen
06-26-07, 05:52 PM check da sig
Mad Mage
06-26-07, 09:23 PM Well, if you're going by 3.5 Edition rules, and don't mind some Core D&D material, you could check out the Duelist PrC in the 3.5 Dungeon Master's Guide, for one thing. That leans towards using weapons applicable to Weapon Finesse, and tends to have some feel for the Swashbuckler class presented in Complete Warrior.

As far as Realms-related material, I regret to say I can't think of much. :(
The_Shaman
06-27-07, 10:08 AM My friend is a rogue, he needs either some fighter levels or a good prestige class that will help him in combat or get more HP.

Thanks,

ps- This is in Faerun, so anything themed would be great.

Well, I do not remember much off the top of my head (although the Shattered Peak Cultist from LEoF is a good assassin-ish rogue) that is connected to Faerun. My favourite choices would be the Nightsong enforcer from CV and the Invisible Blade from CW, imo both can easily be adapted. I have heard that CScoundrel has a great feat for swashie-rogues, especially if it works with the PHBII swashie variant. Maybe you should check it?
Steelwind
06-27-07, 10:15 AM Dang you Shaman, I was just about to suggest both Nightsong Enforcer and Invisible Blade but you beat me to it. Dread Commando from Heroes of Battle is pretty good too, also for some interesting (and awesome) combat tactics you may want to look at Telflammer Shadowlord from Unapproachable East, although its not full BAB.
The_Shaman
06-27-07, 10:53 AM also for some interesting (and awesome) combat tactics you may want to look at Telflammer Shadowlord from Unapproachable East, although its not full BAB.

It most certainly is. I am a bit irked about the feat and shadowjump prerequisites, but if you can get it, it is worth every level. I only wish the Crinti Shadow Marauder could be that good.
Kurama Youko
06-30-07, 08:53 AM i don't know if this is of any help but the justicar of taiia from deities and demi gods kind might be a good deal, i mean the sneak and and combat sense abilities are fairly good, but you give up some skills that are essential for a rogue, and the hp is still the same but thats what high con is for.
The_Shaman
07-01-07, 04:30 AM Look into the swashbuckler and rogues dont need hp as long as they stick to what they're good at, "hiding." Otherwise check out the peripat of health for some extra con. All a good rogue really needs is a good int and a great dex.

Daring Outlaw makes that a very good option even without multiclassing. Somewhere between Swashie 4/rogue 16 and the opposite nets you 4 attacks, full SA, and some more combat-related features. It works best if you can use it with the PHBII swashie feature instead of their dodge.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
morvegil 06-26-07, 11:52 AM	My friend is a rogue, he needs either some fighter levels or a good prestige class that will help him in combat or get more HP. Thanks, ps- This is in Faerun, so anything themed would be great.
The_Wrath_of_Talos 06-26-07, 05:26 PM	Look into the swashbuckler and rogues dont need hp as long as they stick to what they're good at, "hiding." Otherwise check out the peripat of health for some extra con. All a good rogue really needs is a good int and a great dex.
Dielzen 06-26-07, 05:52 PM	check da sig
Mad Mage 06-26-07, 09:23 PM	Well, if you're going by 3.5 Edition rules, and don't mind some Core D&D material, you could check out the Duelist PrC in the 3.5 Dungeon Master's Guide, for one thing. That leans towards using weapons applicable to Weapon Finesse, and tends to have some feel for the Swashbuckler class presented in Complete Warrior. As far as Realms-related material, I regret to say I can't think of much. :(
The_Shaman 06-27-07, 10:08 AM	My friend is a rogue, he needs either some fighter levels or a good prestige class that will help him in combat or get more HP. Thanks, ps- This is in Faerun, so anything themed would be great. Well, I do not remember much off the top of my head (although the Shattered Peak Cultist from LEoF is a good assassin-ish rogue) that is connected to Faerun. My favourite choices would be the Nightsong enforcer from CV and the Invisible Blade from CW, imo both can easily be adapted. I have heard that CScoundrel has a great feat for swashie-rogues, especially if it works with the PHBII swashie variant. Maybe you should check it?
Steelwind 06-27-07, 10:15 AM	Dang you Shaman, I was just about to suggest both Nightsong Enforcer and Invisible Blade but you beat me to it. Dread Commando from Heroes of Battle is pretty good too, also for some interesting (and awesome) combat tactics you may want to look at Telflammer Shadowlord from Unapproachable East, although its not full BAB.
The_Shaman 06-27-07, 10:53 AM	also for some interesting (and awesome) combat tactics you may want to look at Telflammer Shadowlord from Unapproachable East, although its not full BAB. It most certainly is. I am a bit irked about the feat and shadowjump prerequisites, but if you can get it, it is worth every level. I only wish the Crinti Shadow Marauder could be that good.
Kurama Youko 06-30-07, 08:53 AM	i don't know if this is of any help but the justicar of taiia from deities and demi gods kind might be a good deal, i mean the sneak and and combat sense abilities are fairly good, but you give up some skills that are essential for a rogue, and the hp is still the same but thats what high con is for.
The_Shaman 07-01-07, 04:30 AM	Look into the swashbuckler and rogues dont need hp as long as they stick to what they're good at, "hiding." Otherwise check out the peripat of health for some extra con. All a good rogue really needs is a good int and a great dex. Daring Outlaw makes that a very good option even without multiclassing. Somewhere between Swashie 4/rogue 16 and the opposite nets you 4 attacks, full SA, and some more combat-related features. It works best if you can use it with the PHBII swashie feature instead of their dodge.