Opinions on Bullywug as a Race [Archive] - Wizards Community

Opinions on Bullywug as a Race [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Hyregoth
09-03-07, 10:33 PM Bullywug: Humanoid (aquatic)

See Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerun (pg. 25).

Regions:

See Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerun (pg. 25).

Racial Abilities:
· +6 Constitution, -4 Int, -2 Wis, -2 Cha
· Medium-size
· Bullywug base speed is 20 ft., Swim 30 ft.
· +6 racial bonus on Hide checks in marshy or swampy areas.
· A Bullywug in melee combat or up to 30 ft. distant can make a
hopping/charge attack which adds a +2 circumstance modifier to
their attack rolls but also a –2 to AC until the start of your next
turn.
· SA/SQ: Imp. Grab (tongue, grp +4, bite 1d4+1) vs. smaller only.
· Automatic Languages: Bullywug, Common
· Favored Class: Fighter
· Level Adjustment +1

More info at:
Bullywug (www.fred.net/knopp/Things to Know About Bullywug.doc)
Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerun (pg. 25).

What's your opinion, comments on this?
Valgard
09-04-07, 08:45 AM Is this a new variant you want to make or are you simply asking if this is right? Because if it is as it should be in the book, the ability modifiers are wrong (Wis and Cha should be both at -4, not -2), barbarian should be their favored class instead of fighter, the special abilities you grant them are not covered anywhere, and you ignored the original ones: marsh move (no movement penalties when in marsh terrain) and the summoning special ability (when casting a summon monster spell, there's a 50% chance they summon another creature of the same type and a 25% chance that all summoned monsters are not under the bullywug control).
Lord Karsus
09-04-07, 03:11 PM -I am Pro-Bullywug.
MarkHall
09-05-07, 03:50 AM I have always had an irrational hatred of bullywugs.
Sosthenes
09-05-07, 04:29 AM I have always had an irrational hatred of bullywugs.
It's not easy being green.
Hyregoth
09-05-07, 04:39 PM Is this a new variant you want to make or are you simply asking if this is right? Because if it is as it should be in the book, the ability modifiers are wrong (Wis and Cha should be both at -4, not -2), barbarian should be their favored class instead of fighter, the special abilities you grant them are not covered anywhere, and you ignored the original ones: marsh move (no movement penalties when in marsh terrain) and the summoning special ability (when casting a summon monster spell, there's a 50% chance they summon another creature of the same type and a 25% chance that all summoned monsters are not under the bullywug control).

Where are you getting your information?
Also, the summoning is only for Bullywug clerics not Barbarians.
In Monsters of Faerun it only mentions the Warrior class.
Gray Richardson
09-05-07, 07:54 PM I myself am quite fond of Bullywugs, Sivs and Grippli. They are the barbaric descendants of the long lost Batrachi creator race. There's tremendous potential for storytelling and adventures involving them. You should definitely use one in a campaign.
Borris
09-05-07, 08:33 PM I'm also all for Bullywug characters. Having six of them as miniatures, I'd better find a way to use them in my D&D campaigns. They just don't fit in my current games, one being set around the Great Glacier and the Bloodstone Lands, and the other one being in the Underdark. Maybe my next campaign will focus on batrachi descendants. But that won't be until next year at least.
Lord Karsus
09-06-07, 01:01 PM ...Having six of them as miniatures...

-Sulaco (Don't know if you know him or not) has a veritable army of Bullywug Miniatures. I think he has 54 or 56 of 'em...
Borris
09-06-07, 05:57 PM Well, I only have what I found in my boosters. I like the race, but I won't go out of my way to buy more than I already have. Though I could get a Bullywug army easilly if I ever thought I'd use more than 6 of them in a single encounter. The local gaming store sells them for 50 cents a piece.

Still, I don't think it'd be a wise move to spend 25$ on Bullywug figs just to have a bigger army than Sulaco.
Lord Karsus
09-06-07, 06:37 PM Still, I don't think it'd be a wise move to spend 25$ on Bullywug figs just to have a bigger army than Sulaco.

-Don't worry. It's not size that counts, but how you use it. ;)
MerrikCale
09-06-07, 10:08 PM -Don't worry. It's not size that counts, but how you use it. ;)

Its usually people that don't have size that say that......

Its not the size that counts but how you use it
Valgard
09-07-07, 06:12 AM Where are you getting your information?
Also, the summoning is only for Bullywug clerics not Barbarians.
In Monsters of Faerun it only mentions the Warrior class.
Monsters of Faerūn and Player's Guide to Faerūn web-enhancement... literally what it says there.

Of course, barbarians get no benefit from the summoning ability, but they have it already. It's like the Deep Imaskari (Underdark) spells special ability (I don't remember its name) that which let's you swap spells prepared... if you are a Deep Imaskari fighter, you also get no benefit but you still have it.

A good thing that RPG has is that you can combine whatever options you have at your disposal. Probably the monsters are usually warriors and their leaders barbarians, but you can make any PC or special NPC by giving him any class (as long as you have a good background and backstory).
KnightoftheWhiteRose
09-08-07, 12:36 PM My player developed a bad habit of licking bullywugs to get loaded when they couldnt afford ale. i have since banned them from taking bullywug's as slaves. the Bullywug's that have been freed tend to follow the players still...:drool:

I support all Living monsters as PC's that are up to large sized. Undead and Abyssal beings in only evil campaigns.
_Jayne_Cobb_
01-03-08, 12:27 PM -Sulaco (Don't know if you know him or not) has a veritable army of Bullywug Miniatures. I think he has 54 or 56 of 'em...

At last count: 165.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs04.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs02.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs05.jpg

:D
Lord Karsus
01-03-08, 12:50 PM At last count: 165.

:rofl:
-The army grows, I see.
Iakhovas
01-04-08, 08:09 PM Now that is impressive!
Suin Bahhar
01-05-08, 08:48 AM Perfect target for a widened Confusion.
Lord Karsus
01-05-08, 05:23 PM Perfect target for a widened Confusion.

-That might make them smarter, actually. :)
MarkusTay63
01-05-08, 11:35 PM I was never very big on "frog people", until I saw this pic at Deviantart -

http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs6/i/2005/054/7/8/Frog_Warrior_by_kyoht.jpg

He brings a certain coolness to the name of 'toad'. :D
XHereticX
01-06-08, 05:48 PM "Feeling an irresistable urge to poar salt on a frog right now":devil:
18DELTA
01-07-08, 12:59 AM -Now, what would happen if Ms. Piggy got thrown into their midst? :eek: ;) :P :D Me thinks all those Kermy's would like that a lot!:smirk:
MarkusTay63
01-07-08, 11:30 AM No, Kermy hated Miss Piggy, but I think if some of those other frog-folk took a liking to her, she might just become "Miss Piggy" in more then just name. ;)

I thought salt was only used on slugs? :confused:
Lord Karsus
01-07-08, 11:57 AM I thought salt was only used on slugs? :confused:

-That's what I thought, too. Maybe it works on all slimy things. It certainly can't be good for them, anyway.
GreenKnight
01-07-08, 04:22 PM At last count: 165.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs04.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs02.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs05.jpg

:D

Why do I hear the Imperial March Theme in my head when I look at these pics?
Suin Bahhar
01-07-08, 04:40 PM My hands keep itching for a blade. And imagine the smell of a bullywug army! Ack!
MarkusTay63
01-07-08, 04:48 PM I picture a Royal Banquet when the evil swamp-invaders are vanquished...

With Frogs legs being on the top of the menu. :P

Or better yet - the next time my PCs break into an Wizard's Laboratory, there will be a Bullywug pinned to the wall with it's chest opened up.
Suin Bahhar
01-07-08, 04:54 PM With Frogs legs being on the top of the menu. :P I hear they taste good with salt :D
Khaelieth
01-07-08, 05:38 PM Let's hope for their survival there doesn't exist French-flavoured giants, or they're toast... uhmmm... frog legs.
XHereticX
01-07-08, 08:44 PM Let's hope for their survival there doesn't exist French-flavoured giants, or they're toast... uhmmm... frog legs.

Fried frog legs are actually very good. They are like chicken, except..better;)
Rauric
01-08-08, 11:07 AM Bullywugs are great when dealing with Chuthulu like gods and lost places I find.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Hyregoth 09-03-07, 10:33 PM	Bullywug: Humanoid (aquatic) See Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerun (pg. 25). Regions: See Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerun (pg. 25). Racial Abilities: · +6 Constitution, -4 Int, -2 Wis, -2 Cha · Medium-size · Bullywug base speed is 20 ft., Swim 30 ft. · +6 racial bonus on Hide checks in marshy or swampy areas. · A Bullywug in melee combat or up to 30 ft. distant can make a hopping/charge attack which adds a +2 circumstance modifier to their attack rolls but also a –2 to AC until the start of your next turn. · SA/SQ: Imp. Grab (tongue, grp +4, bite 1d4+1) vs. smaller only. · Automatic Languages: Bullywug, Common · Favored Class: Fighter · Level Adjustment +1 More info at: Bullywug (www.fred.net/knopp/Things to Know About Bullywug.doc) Monster Compendium: Monsters of Faerun (pg. 25). What's your opinion, comments on this?
Valgard 09-04-07, 08:45 AM	Is this a new variant you want to make or are you simply asking if this is right? Because if it is as it should be in the book, the ability modifiers are wrong (Wis and Cha should be both at -4, not -2), barbarian should be their favored class instead of fighter, the special abilities you grant them are not covered anywhere, and you ignored the original ones: marsh move (no movement penalties when in marsh terrain) and the summoning special ability (when casting a summon monster spell, there's a 50% chance they summon another creature of the same type and a 25% chance that all summoned monsters are not under the bullywug control).
Lord Karsus 09-04-07, 03:11 PM	-I am Pro-Bullywug.
MarkHall 09-05-07, 03:50 AM	I have always had an irrational hatred of bullywugs.
Sosthenes 09-05-07, 04:29 AM	I have always had an irrational hatred of bullywugs. It's not easy being green.
Hyregoth 09-05-07, 04:39 PM	Is this a new variant you want to make or are you simply asking if this is right? Because if it is as it should be in the book, the ability modifiers are wrong (Wis and Cha should be both at -4, not -2), barbarian should be their favored class instead of fighter, the special abilities you grant them are not covered anywhere, and you ignored the original ones: marsh move (no movement penalties when in marsh terrain) and the summoning special ability (when casting a summon monster spell, there's a 50% chance they summon another creature of the same type and a 25% chance that all summoned monsters are not under the bullywug control). Where are you getting your information? Also, the summoning is only for Bullywug clerics not Barbarians. In Monsters of Faerun it only mentions the Warrior class.
Gray Richardson 09-05-07, 07:54 PM	I myself am quite fond of Bullywugs, Sivs and Grippli. They are the barbaric descendants of the long lost Batrachi creator race. There's tremendous potential for storytelling and adventures involving them. You should definitely use one in a campaign.
Borris 09-05-07, 08:33 PM	I'm also all for Bullywug characters. Having six of them as miniatures, I'd better find a way to use them in my D&D campaigns. They just don't fit in my current games, one being set around the Great Glacier and the Bloodstone Lands, and the other one being in the Underdark. Maybe my next campaign will focus on batrachi descendants. But that won't be until next year at least.
Lord Karsus 09-06-07, 01:01 PM	...Having six of them as miniatures... -Sulaco (Don't know if you know him or not) has a veritable army of Bullywug Miniatures. I think he has 54 or 56 of 'em...
Borris 09-06-07, 05:57 PM	Well, I only have what I found in my boosters. I like the race, but I won't go out of my way to buy more than I already have. Though I could get a Bullywug army easilly if I ever thought I'd use more than 6 of them in a single encounter. The local gaming store sells them for 50 cents a piece. Still, I don't think it'd be a wise move to spend 25$ on Bullywug figs just to have a bigger army than Sulaco.
Lord Karsus 09-06-07, 06:37 PM	Still, I don't think it'd be a wise move to spend 25$ on Bullywug figs just to have a bigger army than Sulaco. -Don't worry. It's not size that counts, but how you use it. ;)
MerrikCale 09-06-07, 10:08 PM	-Don't worry. It's not size that counts, but how you use it. ;) Its usually people that don't have size that say that...... Its not the size that counts but how you use it
Valgard 09-07-07, 06:12 AM	Where are you getting your information? Also, the summoning is only for Bullywug clerics not Barbarians. In Monsters of Faerun it only mentions the Warrior class. Monsters of Faerūn and Player's Guide to Faerūn web-enhancement... literally what it says there. Of course, barbarians get no benefit from the summoning ability, but they have it already. It's like the Deep Imaskari (Underdark) spells special ability (I don't remember its name) that which let's you swap spells prepared... if you are a Deep Imaskari fighter, you also get no benefit but you still have it. A good thing that RPG has is that you can combine whatever options you have at your disposal. Probably the monsters are usually warriors and their leaders barbarians, but you can make any PC or special NPC by giving him any class (as long as you have a good background and backstory).
KnightoftheWhiteRose 09-08-07, 12:36 PM	My player developed a bad habit of licking bullywugs to get loaded when they couldnt afford ale. i have since banned them from taking bullywug's as slaves. the Bullywug's that have been freed tend to follow the players still...:drool: I support all Living monsters as PC's that are up to large sized. Undead and Abyssal beings in only evil campaigns.
_Jayne_Cobb_ 01-03-08, 12:27 PM	-Sulaco (Don't know if you know him or not) has a veritable army of Bullywug Miniatures. I think he has 54 or 56 of 'em... At last count: 165. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs04.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs02.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs05.jpg :D
Lord Karsus 01-03-08, 12:50 PM	At last count: 165. :rofl: -The army grows, I see.
Iakhovas 01-04-08, 08:09 PM	Now that is impressive!
Suin Bahhar 01-05-08, 08:48 AM	Perfect target for a widened Confusion.
Lord Karsus 01-05-08, 05:23 PM	Perfect target for a widened Confusion. -That might make them smarter, actually. :)
MarkusTay63 01-05-08, 11:35 PM	I was never very big on "frog people", until I saw this pic at Deviantart - http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs6/i/2005/054/7/8/Frog_Warrior_by_kyoht.jpg He brings a certain coolness to the name of 'toad'. :D
XHereticX 01-06-08, 05:48 PM	"Feeling an irresistable urge to poar salt on a frog right now":devil:
18DELTA 01-07-08, 12:59 AM	-Now, what would happen if Ms. Piggy got thrown into their midst? :eek: ;) :P :D Me thinks all those Kermy's would like that a lot!:smirk:
MarkusTay63 01-07-08, 11:30 AM	No, Kermy hated Miss Piggy, but I think if some of those other frog-folk took a liking to her, she might just become "Miss Piggy" in more then just name. ;) I thought salt was only used on slugs? :confused:
Lord Karsus 01-07-08, 11:57 AM	I thought salt was only used on slugs? :confused: -That's what I thought, too. Maybe it works on all slimy things. It certainly can't be good for them, anyway.
GreenKnight 01-07-08, 04:22 PM	At last count: 165. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs04.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs02.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/TheSulaco/Bullywugs05.jpg :D Why do I hear the Imperial March Theme in my head when I look at these pics?
Suin Bahhar 01-07-08, 04:40 PM	My hands keep itching for a blade. And imagine the smell of a bullywug army! Ack!
MarkusTay63 01-07-08, 04:48 PM	I picture a Royal Banquet when the evil swamp-invaders are vanquished... With Frogs legs being on the top of the menu. :P Or better yet - the next time my PCs break into an Wizard's Laboratory, there will be a Bullywug pinned to the wall with it's chest opened up.
Suin Bahhar 01-07-08, 04:54 PM	With Frogs legs being on the top of the menu. :P I hear they taste good with salt :D
Khaelieth 01-07-08, 05:38 PM	Let's hope for their survival there doesn't exist French-flavoured giants, or they're toast... uhmmm... frog legs.
XHereticX 01-07-08, 08:44 PM	Let's hope for their survival there doesn't exist French-flavoured giants, or they're toast... uhmmm... frog legs. Fried frog legs are actually very good. They are like chicken, except..better;)
Rauric 01-08-08, 11:07 AM	Bullywugs are great when dealing with Chuthulu like gods and lost places I find.