Racial Level adjustments, how they work? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Racial Level adjustments, how they work? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Burningspear
02-22-07, 03:36 PM when i have a +3lvl race, and i am playing a lvl 6 character in total levels, 3 for race and 3 for class,
when i look at the table 3-2 at page 22 of PHB,

What is the level i count on htis table, 3 or 6?
and when do i start gaining the bonus feats for lvl?.

thnx in advance.
Mirashira
02-22-07, 03:56 PM afaik - correct me if i am wrong - you are a character level 6 - with 3 levels of class - so on 7th level you gain your ability score increase (4th class-level) -

and you take on the 3rd level to determine your feats etc.
Burningspear
02-22-07, 10:40 PM ok, thanks for the reply, i was just making sure i was interpreting the rules correctly.. :bow: :tie: :plotting:
Dielzen
02-23-07, 11:18 AM I'm at work, so I could be wrong, but I believe that's incorrect. Your bonus feats and stat adjustments come based upon your total # of HD, you monster race gave you a feat for 3rd HD already (unless you're a 2hd/1la race).

The key # is your HD, every 3 HD = feat; 4hd = stat increase

The thing that throws things off is LAs, those don't count.
Echo_that_Pains
02-23-07, 11:29 AM Each racial HD counts as 1 level as well IIRC.

EDIT: I believe that Dielzen is correct. When you advance creatures/monsters they gain feats based on their HD, not class level.
rolig
02-23-07, 11:47 AM Dielzen is correct...

Read up in the races of fearun book if u got it;)
Dont forget that racial HD + class lvl's + lvl adjustment= ELC(or effective character level) A Centaur(ELC 7) lvl 1 fighter, would count as a lvl 8 character. So he could play a campain alongside a lvl 8 human wizard;)
Mad Mage
02-23-07, 12:34 PM Essentially, a +3 LA creature requires as much hit dice as a character with as many class HD as a +0 LA race (ex: a human), but 3 levels higher.

For example, let's say you have both a Svirfneblin Rogue 1 and a Human Rogue 1. To gain 2nd level, the human only needs 1000 XP to reach 2nd level, while the Svirfneblin needs 10,000 xp to reach lvl 2. This information was provided by the 3.5 Edition Player's Hanbook and Races of Faerun.
Alac Luin
02-23-07, 10:22 PM Actually, everyone here looks to be correct.

When the op said
"...3 for race and 3 for class..."
He ment
3 for the race LA
and 3 for class levels.

Racial hit dice are not part of the equation here.
Mirashira
02-24-07, 04:52 AM you got me worried there for a second Dielzen -.-

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Burningspear 02-22-07, 03:36 PM	when i have a +3lvl race, and i am playing a lvl 6 character in total levels, 3 for race and 3 for class, when i look at the table 3-2 at page 22 of PHB, What is the level i count on htis table, 3 or 6? and when do i start gaining the bonus feats for lvl?. thnx in advance.
Mirashira 02-22-07, 03:56 PM	afaik - correct me if i am wrong - you are a character level 6 - with 3 levels of class - so on 7th level you gain your ability score increase (4th class-level) - and you take on the 3rd level to determine your feats etc.
Burningspear 02-22-07, 10:40 PM	ok, thanks for the reply, i was just making sure i was interpreting the rules correctly.. :bow: :tie: :plotting:
Dielzen 02-23-07, 11:18 AM	I'm at work, so I could be wrong, but I believe that's incorrect. Your bonus feats and stat adjustments come based upon your total # of HD, you monster race gave you a feat for 3rd HD already (unless you're a 2hd/1la race). The key # is your HD, every 3 HD = feat; 4hd = stat increase The thing that throws things off is LAs, those don't count.
Echo_that_Pains 02-23-07, 11:29 AM	Each racial HD counts as 1 level as well IIRC. EDIT: I believe that Dielzen is correct. When you advance creatures/monsters they gain feats based on their HD, not class level.
rolig 02-23-07, 11:47 AM	Dielzen is correct... Read up in the races of fearun book if u got it;) Dont forget that racial HD + class lvl's + lvl adjustment= ELC(or effective character level) A Centaur(ELC 7) lvl 1 fighter, would count as a lvl 8 character. So he could play a campain alongside a lvl 8 human wizard;)
Mad Mage 02-23-07, 12:34 PM	Essentially, a +3 LA creature requires as much hit dice as a character with as many class HD as a +0 LA race (ex: a human), but 3 levels higher. For example, let's say you have both a Svirfneblin Rogue 1 and a Human Rogue 1. To gain 2nd level, the human only needs 1000 XP to reach 2nd level, while the Svirfneblin needs 10,000 xp to reach lvl 2. This information was provided by the 3.5 Edition Player's Hanbook and Races of Faerun.
Alac Luin 02-23-07, 10:22 PM	Actually, everyone here looks to be correct. When the op said "...3 for race and 3 for class..." He ment 3 for the race LA and 3 for class levels. Racial hit dice are not part of the equation here.
Mirashira 02-24-07, 04:52 AM	you got me worried there for a second Dielzen -.-