Serving a Dead Deity [Archive] - Wizards Community

Serving a Dead Deity [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Coranna_Duveltre
02-19-07, 03:40 AM I am playing in a campaign where my deity has died. Because of this my character (A paladin/hunter of the dead) will lose access to his abilities. I seem to remember a Prestige Class that allows a character with a dead deity to still receive power based on his faith in that deity. I know that there is a feat that allows spellcasting in a dead deities name (Servant of the Fallen) but I can not for the life of me remember the name of the Prestige Class. Can anyone help me out here?
Valgard
02-19-07, 11:23 AM I think there's no such a prestige class. Maybe you are confused with the Sunlord prestige class because that makes you worship a particular dead god, Amaunator, an so, requires you the SotF feat.
Coranna_Duveltre
02-20-07, 12:17 PM I'm fairly certain that the class that I am referring to exists. I might have been in a Dragon Magazine, I just can't remember where I saw it for the life of me. At least 2 other players in my group remember it also but I recently had all of my books destroyed so I'm having a heck of a time finding anything again.

The main thing that I remember is that it allowed a worshipper of a Dead Deity to continue drawer power from the remnants of that Deities divine essence.

Recently in our game the Realms have changed and all of the deities have died or become lost only to be replaced by different deities and a different history. The only people on Toril that remember them are the PC's.

My character is a Paladin of Selune that has been contacted by the new goddess of the moon but refuses to worship her. He is actually in love with his goddess and refuses to have anything to do with this "heathen world" and has sworn to bring back his world or end this one.

I'm actually thinking of using this opportunity to take the Kensai PRC and use this oath as my prereq. Will I would like him to be able to access his powers. As it is he is pretty much hosed. He has 6 levels of Paladin and 2 levels of Hunter of the Dead. Since his hunter of the dead abilities depend alot on his Paladin abilities he is basically a fighter without the bonus feats and with lower HP. I'm mainly looking to see if anyone could give me options here even if it's not by finding that particular PRC.

Any ideas would be appreciated.
Andyr
02-21-07, 08:38 AM I think Servant of the Fallen is (or at least should be) enough to ensure you keep your other class-related abilities, too. I'm not familiar with the PrC but have ready hardly any issues of Dragon, so can't rule it out.
Yxunomei
02-22-07, 12:43 AM I thought it was a feat rather than a prestige class.
Coranna_Duveltre
02-22-07, 01:19 AM There is a feat named Servant of the Fallen. It only applies to Cleric really as it grants access to divine spellcasting.
Gray Richardson
02-22-07, 03:00 AM As a DM, I would rule, and I think this is very much in keeping with the spirit of the feat, that the Servant of the Fallen feat applies to all divine casters and to the divinely granted abilities of a paladin as well.

There is also the Ur-Priest prestige class that allows you to steal divine power from gods you do not worship.
TomCosta
02-22-07, 05:01 PM Was it possibley a prestige class for one of the old Planescape groups? Other than that, I can only think of the feat.
Andyr
02-22-07, 07:45 PM I thought it was a feat rather than a prestige class.

It is a feat. When I said "the PrC" I was referring to the PrC the OP thought they remembered, rather than SotF. :)
Dark Wizard
02-22-07, 10:39 PM Don't take Servant of the Fallen. Take Heretic of the Faith, acknowledge this new mood goddess then form an ever growing cult to slowly transform her into Selune.
Coranna_Duveltre
02-23-07, 05:26 PM LOL. I love it... which book is Heretic of the Faith in. My nice little Paladin might consider doing something like that :dancin:
Stigger
02-23-07, 07:38 PM Power of Faerun I think is where that feat is currently residing... possibly Lost Empires of Faerun though, don't recall which exactly offhand though. It's one of the two though.
boggler65
02-26-07, 02:53 AM Power of Faerun is the source, it also contains information on fallen deities:

New Feat: Heretic of the Faith
You stray significantly from the teachings of your faith.
Prerequisite:
Patron deity and either divine spellcasting or code of conduct class ability.
Benefit: You can grossly violate you deity's code of conduct, but not your class alignment restriction, without the risk of losing spells or class abilities. If you are a cleric your alignment can be two steps away from your respective deitys alignment instead of just one. You can gain levels without atoning. However you are in no way exempt from excommunication or divine retribution from your deity or his servants, in fact your actions invite the highest level of divine scrutiny.
I think that's all the relevant info for that feat.

Fallen gods and non divine entities:
Allow the class abilities and what not, but cannot cast commune, never incurr a deities wrath, -4 on leadership score.

Just my opinion as a DM you might want to discuss the nature of this loss with your DM, because something more is likely happening here, alternately you can try to find a priest of one of these new gods (god of knowledge would be a good candidate) and ask a priest to cast commune for you. That could even lead to a little unintended side quest.
scrobacca
02-26-07, 07:03 PM OR, you could just go blackguard, on a quest of hateful vengeance to destroy those who killed your deity and stripped you of your powers...slaughtering all minions of that chosen deity that you meet until you get to come face to face with those responsible. Just a thought.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Coranna_Duveltre 02-19-07, 03:40 AM	I am playing in a campaign where my deity has died. Because of this my character (A paladin/hunter of the dead) will lose access to his abilities. I seem to remember a Prestige Class that allows a character with a dead deity to still receive power based on his faith in that deity. I know that there is a feat that allows spellcasting in a dead deities name (Servant of the Fallen) but I can not for the life of me remember the name of the Prestige Class. Can anyone help me out here?
Valgard 02-19-07, 11:23 AM	I think there's no such a prestige class. Maybe you are confused with the Sunlord prestige class because that makes you worship a particular dead god, Amaunator, an so, requires you the SotF feat.
Coranna_Duveltre 02-20-07, 12:17 PM	I'm fairly certain that the class that I am referring to exists. I might have been in a Dragon Magazine, I just can't remember where I saw it for the life of me. At least 2 other players in my group remember it also but I recently had all of my books destroyed so I'm having a heck of a time finding anything again. The main thing that I remember is that it allowed a worshipper of a Dead Deity to continue drawer power from the remnants of that Deities divine essence. Recently in our game the Realms have changed and all of the deities have died or become lost only to be replaced by different deities and a different history. The only people on Toril that remember them are the PC's. My character is a Paladin of Selune that has been contacted by the new goddess of the moon but refuses to worship her. He is actually in love with his goddess and refuses to have anything to do with this "heathen world" and has sworn to bring back his world or end this one. I'm actually thinking of using this opportunity to take the Kensai PRC and use this oath as my prereq. Will I would like him to be able to access his powers. As it is he is pretty much hosed. He has 6 levels of Paladin and 2 levels of Hunter of the Dead. Since his hunter of the dead abilities depend alot on his Paladin abilities he is basically a fighter without the bonus feats and with lower HP. I'm mainly looking to see if anyone could give me options here even if it's not by finding that particular PRC. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Andyr 02-21-07, 08:38 AM	I think Servant of the Fallen is (or at least should be) enough to ensure you keep your other class-related abilities, too. I'm not familiar with the PrC but have ready hardly any issues of Dragon, so can't rule it out.
Yxunomei 02-22-07, 12:43 AM	I thought it was a feat rather than a prestige class.
Coranna_Duveltre 02-22-07, 01:19 AM	There is a feat named Servant of the Fallen. It only applies to Cleric really as it grants access to divine spellcasting.
Gray Richardson 02-22-07, 03:00 AM	As a DM, I would rule, and I think this is very much in keeping with the spirit of the feat, that the Servant of the Fallen feat applies to all divine casters and to the divinely granted abilities of a paladin as well. There is also the Ur-Priest prestige class that allows you to steal divine power from gods you do not worship.
TomCosta 02-22-07, 05:01 PM	Was it possibley a prestige class for one of the old Planescape groups? Other than that, I can only think of the feat.
Andyr 02-22-07, 07:45 PM	I thought it was a feat rather than a prestige class. It is a feat. When I said "the PrC" I was referring to the PrC the OP thought they remembered, rather than SotF. :)
Dark Wizard 02-22-07, 10:39 PM	Don't take Servant of the Fallen. Take Heretic of the Faith, acknowledge this new mood goddess then form an ever growing cult to slowly transform her into Selune.
Coranna_Duveltre 02-23-07, 05:26 PM	LOL. I love it... which book is Heretic of the Faith in. My nice little Paladin might consider doing something like that :dancin:
Stigger 02-23-07, 07:38 PM	Power of Faerun I think is where that feat is currently residing... possibly Lost Empires of Faerun though, don't recall which exactly offhand though. It's one of the two though.
boggler65 02-26-07, 02:53 AM	Power of Faerun is the source, it also contains information on fallen deities: New Feat: Heretic of the Faith You stray significantly from the teachings of your faith. Prerequisite: Patron deity and either divine spellcasting or code of conduct class ability. Benefit: You can grossly violate you deity's code of conduct, but not your class alignment restriction, without the risk of losing spells or class abilities. If you are a cleric your alignment can be two steps away from your respective deitys alignment instead of just one. You can gain levels without atoning. However you are in no way exempt from excommunication or divine retribution from your deity or his servants, in fact your actions invite the highest level of divine scrutiny. I think that's all the relevant info for that feat. Fallen gods and non divine entities: Allow the class abilities and what not, but cannot cast commune, never incurr a deities wrath, -4 on leadership score. Just my opinion as a DM you might want to discuss the nature of this loss with your DM, because something more is likely happening here, alternately you can try to find a priest of one of these new gods (god of knowledge would be a good candidate) and ask a priest to cast commune for you. That could even lead to a little unintended side quest.
scrobacca 02-26-07, 07:03 PM	OR, you could just go blackguard, on a quest of hateful vengeance to destroy those who killed your deity and stripped you of your powers...slaughtering all minions of that chosen deity that you meet until you get to come face to face with those responsible. Just a thought.