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Green Elven Vampire
08-08-07, 03:53 AM Updated my PrC for further opinions. Thanks in advance.

The Spellfilcher of Erevan Ilesere

The Spellfilchers of Erevan Ilesere are a special breed of Rogue/Wizards. They master and combine their knowledge of spells with their utter love of mischief, larceny and intrigue. While no formal or known orders are associated with Erevan's church, countless bands and guilds of elven and half elven rogues have been founded in honor of the Trickster. A Notable example of spellfilchers are the fellowship known as The Knaves of the Missing Page which is based in the vale of Evereska but active all throughout Faerún. There are even some spellfilchers in the ranks of the much lesser-known elven thieves guild in Silverymoon called The Rogues of the Laughing Twilight. They work well with the clergy of Erevan, especially with Divine Seekers and Masked Pranksters, but also just as well with Thief-Acrobats, Shadowdancers and Temple Raiders of Erevan Ilesere. They are among Faerún's most powerfully skilled thieves and wont hesitate to cast a Delayed-bast Meteor Swarm in the main chapel of a rival deity after having stolen a priceless item or artifact from them.

Hit Die: d4.

Requirements: To qualify to become a Spellfilcher, a character must fulfill all the following criteria.

Race: Character must be a Elf or Half Elf.

Skills: Knowledge (religion, arcana) 5 ranks, Disguise 5 ranks, Open Locks 10 ranks, Pick Pockets 5 ranks, Disable Devise 10 ranks.

Feats: Skill Focus (at least one; open locks, pick pockets, disable devise, move silently, hide), Any Metamagic feat and Street Smart.

Spellcasting: Ability to cast Greater Magehand and at least one 3'rd level or higher arcane spell with the chaos, Trickery or luck discriptor.

Special: +2d6 Sneak attack ability. Must have Erevan Ilesere as a Patron Deity.

Class Skills: As the Rogue class skills, plus Knowledge (religion, arcana), Concentration and Spellcraft.
Skill points at each level- 4 + Cha mod.

Class Features:

Weapon & Armor Proficiency: Spellfilchers gain no proficiency with small or light weapons.

Spells per day: A spellfilcher's training focuses on Arcane magic. Thus, when a character gains a new level of SF, she gains new spells per day as if she aso gained a level in whatever spellcasting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class. She does not however gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained.

Pass Glyph: At 1st level The SF gains a +4 bonus on all search, disable devise and open lock checks to locate, disable or bypass magical glyphs, runes and symbols.

Ranged Spellfilch: At 1st level the SF can perform one of the following class skills at a range of 35 feet: Disable Devise, Open Lock or Pick Pocket. There is no increase to the skill check DC for working at a distance and you may take 10 on the check while in shadows. This ability may be used 3/day.

Sneak Attack: At 2nd level she gains sneak attack 1d6 as the rogue ability. This stacks with any sneak attack ability from another class. The damage increases to 2d6 at 5th level, 3d6 at 8th level.

Smiling Defense: At 3rd level she gains a +2 bonus to all saving throws against spells from the schools of Illusion, enchantment, Divination and Transmutation. This increases to +4 at 7th level.

Bonus Feat At 4th level she gains a bonus feat from this list: Spell Focus, Greater Spell Focus, Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration, Improved Familiar, Signature Spell (must meet prereq), Delay Spell, Twin Spell.

Erevan's Sense: At 5th level she posesses an uncanny intuition that warns her of danger. She gains a +4 insight bonus to Reflex saves to avoid traps, +4 dodge bonus to AC against attacks by traps, and a +6 insight bonus on spot checks to spot creatures at the beginning of an encounter.

Defensive Roll: At 6th level she gains the defensive roll ability (see the rogue section in chapter 3 of the PHB).

Bonus Feat: At 7th level she gains a bonus feat from the following list: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Cosmopolitan, Education, Leadership, Lightning Reflexes, Track, Skill Focus (any rogue class skill), Still Spell, Weapon Finesse, Flick of the Wrist, Arteral Strike, Quicker than the Eye.

Tricksters Shroud: At 8th level she gains the ability to cast the Spell resistance spell on herself one time a day giving her SR 12 + caster level. It's a spell-like ability that is cast at her total caster level.

Extend Spell: At 9th level she may cast a spell as if it were under the effects of the Extend Spell feat. She does not need to prepare this spell in advance, and it does not increase the casting time or use a higher spell slot. This ability can be used a number of times a day equal to 1 + Intelligence bonus.

Improvised Sneak Attack: At 10th level She can combine her Rogue and Arcane skills to perform this ability. She can declare one melee or ranged attack she makes to be a sneak attack. The target of improvised sneak attack loses any and all dexterity bonus to AC, but only against this one attack. She does not need to flank her opponent or remain hidden for this to work.
This ability may be used 2/day.

CL-BAB-FS-RS-WS-Special- Spells per day

1'st-+0-+0-+2-+2-- Pass glyph, Ranged spellfilch- +1level

2'nd-+1-+0-+3-+3-Sneak Attack +1level

3'rd-+1-+1-+3-+3-Smiling defense -+1level

4'th-+2-+1-+4-+4-Bonus Feat -+1level

5'th-+2-+1-+4-+4-Erevan's sense, Sneak Attack -+1level

6'th-+3-+2-+5-+5-Defensive Roll -+1level

7'th-+3-+2-+5-+5-Bonus Feat -+1level

8'th-+4-+2-+6-+6-Sneak Attak, Tricsters shroud,+1level

9'th-+4-+3-+6-+6-Extend Spell, +1level

10'th-+5-+3-+7-+7-Improvised Sneak Attack, -+1level
Valgard
08-08-07, 06:29 AM I think the class is quite overpowered. You increase as a spellcaster but with many more options and bonus feats... I think that's quite powerful.

If you want to make your Charisma affect your class skills make a new class feature related with that (such as to take a number of skills equal to your Cha bonus and permit those to take 10 even if threatened), but do not use Cha instead of Int to get skill points at all levels... Cha does nothing to do with learning. At least, that's my opinion.
Dielzen
08-08-07, 11:52 AM There's only one spell in the SRD with the Chaotic descriptor of 3rd level or higher (Magic Circle against Law), and there's no such thing as Luck or Trickery descriptors.

Cha <> Skill Points

It looks like you took the Arcane Trickster, took 2 SP/level away, and gave it a new class feature every level instead. It's too much.

Also, if you're copying some ability and using it, give it the same name, that way it won't stack crazily, such as Trap Sense/Erevan's Sense and Ranged Ledgerdemain and Ranged Spellfilch.

Also, on a purely fluffy note -- Spellfilchers are not specific to Erevan, and based on the Kit description from the Handbook of Elves, I'd actually go so far as to say that they would never connect, in terms of philosophy and outlook.
Mad Mage
08-08-07, 01:27 PM Judging by the skill requirements, I take it this is a 3.0 PrC instead of a 3.5 one?
Dimensional_Drifter
08-08-07, 10:46 PM Trying to make an improved arcane trickster that is elven?
arveiaturace_nartheling
08-10-07, 09:23 PM improve no try to make a lev one 1 in to 47 epic spell slinger that just makes micsheaf yes.
Green Elven Vampire
08-10-07, 10:58 PM Judging by the skill requirements, I take it this is a 3.0 PrC instead of a 3.5 one?

You are correct my friend.
Green Elven Vampire
08-10-07, 11:01 PM There's only one spell in the SRD with the Chaotic descriptor of 3rd level or higher (Magic Circle against Law), and there's no such thing as Luck or Trickery descriptors.

Cha <> Skill Points

It looks like you took the Arcane Trickster, took 2 SP/level away, and gave it a new class feature every level instead. It's too much.

Also, if you're copying some ability and using it, give it the same name, that way it won't stack crazily, such as Trap Sense/Erevan's Sense and Ranged Ledgerdemain and Ranged Spellfilch.

Also, on a purely fluffy note -- Spellfilchers are not specific to Erevan, and based on the Kit description from the Handbook of Elves, I'd actually go so far as to say that they would never connect, in terms of philosophy and outlook.

There are several spells in 3ED that have the chaos, trickery or luck discriptor.
Green Elven Vampire
08-10-07, 11:04 PM Trying to make an improved arcane trickster that is elven?

A rogue/ wizard that is Erevan specific. More like a specialist in a thieves guild devoted to Erevan Ilesere.
Green Elven Vampire
08-10-07, 11:05 PM improve no try to make a lev one 1 in to 47 epic spell slinger that just makes micsheaf yes.

I'm sorry, I couldn't understand your broken english. Can you please repeat that?

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Green Elven Vampire 08-08-07, 03:53 AM	Updated my PrC for further opinions. Thanks in advance. The Spellfilcher of Erevan Ilesere The Spellfilchers of Erevan Ilesere are a special breed of Rogue/Wizards. They master and combine their knowledge of spells with their utter love of mischief, larceny and intrigue. While no formal or known orders are associated with Erevan's church, countless bands and guilds of elven and half elven rogues have been founded in honor of the Trickster. A Notable example of spellfilchers are the fellowship known as The Knaves of the Missing Page which is based in the vale of Evereska but active all throughout Faerún. There are even some spellfilchers in the ranks of the much lesser-known elven thieves guild in Silverymoon called The Rogues of the Laughing Twilight. They work well with the clergy of Erevan, especially with Divine Seekers and Masked Pranksters, but also just as well with Thief-Acrobats, Shadowdancers and Temple Raiders of Erevan Ilesere. They are among Faerún's most powerfully skilled thieves and wont hesitate to cast a Delayed-bast Meteor Swarm in the main chapel of a rival deity after having stolen a priceless item or artifact from them. Hit Die: d4. Requirements: To qualify to become a Spellfilcher, a character must fulfill all the following criteria. Race: Character must be a Elf or Half Elf. Skills: Knowledge (religion, arcana) 5 ranks, Disguise 5 ranks, Open Locks 10 ranks, Pick Pockets 5 ranks, Disable Devise 10 ranks. Feats: Skill Focus (at least one; open locks, pick pockets, disable devise, move silently, hide), Any Metamagic feat and Street Smart. Spellcasting: Ability to cast Greater Magehand and at least one 3'rd level or higher arcane spell with the chaos, Trickery or luck discriptor. Special: +2d6 Sneak attack ability. Must have Erevan Ilesere as a Patron Deity. Class Skills: As the Rogue class skills, plus Knowledge (religion, arcana), Concentration and Spellcraft. Skill points at each level- 4 + Cha mod. Class Features: Weapon & Armor Proficiency: Spellfilchers gain no proficiency with small or light weapons. Spells per day: A spellfilcher's training focuses on Arcane magic. Thus, when a character gains a new level of SF, she gains new spells per day as if she aso gained a level in whatever spellcasting class she belonged to before she added the prestige class. She does not however gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained. Pass Glyph: At 1st level The SF gains a +4 bonus on all search, disable devise and open lock checks to locate, disable or bypass magical glyphs, runes and symbols. Ranged Spellfilch: At 1st level the SF can perform one of the following class skills at a range of 35 feet: Disable Devise, Open Lock or Pick Pocket. There is no increase to the skill check DC for working at a distance and you may take 10 on the check while in shadows. This ability may be used 3/day. Sneak Attack: At 2nd level she gains sneak attack 1d6 as the rogue ability. This stacks with any sneak attack ability from another class. The damage increases to 2d6 at 5th level, 3d6 at 8th level. Smiling Defense: At 3rd level she gains a +2 bonus to all saving throws against spells from the schools of Illusion, enchantment, Divination and Transmutation. This increases to +4 at 7th level. Bonus Feat At 4th level she gains a bonus feat from this list: Spell Focus, Greater Spell Focus, Spell Penetration, Greater Spell Penetration, Improved Familiar, Signature Spell (must meet prereq), Delay Spell, Twin Spell. Erevan's Sense: At 5th level she posesses an uncanny intuition that warns her of danger. She gains a +4 insight bonus to Reflex saves to avoid traps, +4 dodge bonus to AC against attacks by traps, and a +6 insight bonus on spot checks to spot creatures at the beginning of an encounter. Defensive Roll: At 6th level she gains the defensive roll ability (see the rogue section in chapter 3 of the PHB). Bonus Feat: At 7th level she gains a bonus feat from the following list: Alertness, Blind-Fight, Cosmopolitan, Education, Leadership, Lightning Reflexes, Track, Skill Focus (any rogue class skill), Still Spell, Weapon Finesse, Flick of the Wrist, Arteral Strike, Quicker than the Eye. Tricksters Shroud: At 8th level she gains the ability to cast the Spell resistance spell on herself one time a day giving her SR 12 + caster level. It's a spell-like ability that is cast at her total caster level. Extend Spell: At 9th level she may cast a spell as if it were under the effects of the Extend Spell feat. She does not need to prepare this spell in advance, and it does not increase the casting time or use a higher spell slot. This ability can be used a number of times a day equal to 1 + Intelligence bonus. Improvised Sneak Attack: At 10th level She can combine her Rogue and Arcane skills to perform this ability. She can declare one melee or ranged attack she makes to be a sneak attack. The target of improvised sneak attack loses any and all dexterity bonus to AC, but only against this one attack. She does not need to flank her opponent or remain hidden for this to work. This ability may be used 2/day. CL-BAB-FS-RS-WS-Special- Spells per day 1'st-+0-+0-+2-+2-- Pass glyph, Ranged spellfilch- +1level 2'nd-+1-+0-+3-+3-Sneak Attack +1level 3'rd-+1-+1-+3-+3-Smiling defense -+1level 4'th-+2-+1-+4-+4-Bonus Feat -+1level 5'th-+2-+1-+4-+4-Erevan's sense, Sneak Attack -+1level 6'th-+3-+2-+5-+5-Defensive Roll -+1level 7'th-+3-+2-+5-+5-Bonus Feat -+1level 8'th-+4-+2-+6-+6-Sneak Attak, Tricsters shroud,+1level 9'th-+4-+3-+6-+6-Extend Spell, +1level 10'th-+5-+3-+7-+7-Improvised Sneak Attack, -+1level
Valgard 08-08-07, 06:29 AM	I think the class is quite overpowered. You increase as a spellcaster but with many more options and bonus feats... I think that's quite powerful. If you want to make your Charisma affect your class skills make a new class feature related with that (such as to take a number of skills equal to your Cha bonus and permit those to take 10 even if threatened), but do not use Cha instead of Int to get skill points at all levels... Cha does nothing to do with learning. At least, that's my opinion.
Dielzen 08-08-07, 11:52 AM	There's only one spell in the SRD with the Chaotic descriptor of 3rd level or higher (Magic Circle against Law), and there's no such thing as Luck or Trickery descriptors. Cha <> Skill Points It looks like you took the Arcane Trickster, took 2 SP/level away, and gave it a new class feature every level instead. It's too much. Also, if you're copying some ability and using it, give it the same name, that way it won't stack crazily, such as Trap Sense/Erevan's Sense and Ranged Ledgerdemain and Ranged Spellfilch. Also, on a purely fluffy note -- Spellfilchers are not specific to Erevan, and based on the Kit description from the Handbook of Elves, I'd actually go so far as to say that they would never connect, in terms of philosophy and outlook.
Mad Mage 08-08-07, 01:27 PM	Judging by the skill requirements, I take it this is a 3.0 PrC instead of a 3.5 one?
Dimensional_Drifter 08-08-07, 10:46 PM	Trying to make an improved arcane trickster that is elven?
arveiaturace_nartheling 08-10-07, 09:23 PM	improve no try to make a lev one 1 in to 47 epic spell slinger that just makes micsheaf yes.
Green Elven Vampire 08-10-07, 10:58 PM	Judging by the skill requirements, I take it this is a 3.0 PrC instead of a 3.5 one? You are correct my friend.
Green Elven Vampire 08-10-07, 11:01 PM	There's only one spell in the SRD with the Chaotic descriptor of 3rd level or higher (Magic Circle against Law), and there's no such thing as Luck or Trickery descriptors. Cha <> Skill Points It looks like you took the Arcane Trickster, took 2 SP/level away, and gave it a new class feature every level instead. It's too much. Also, if you're copying some ability and using it, give it the same name, that way it won't stack crazily, such as Trap Sense/Erevan's Sense and Ranged Ledgerdemain and Ranged Spellfilch. Also, on a purely fluffy note -- Spellfilchers are not specific to Erevan, and based on the Kit description from the Handbook of Elves, I'd actually go so far as to say that they would never connect, in terms of philosophy and outlook. There are several spells in 3ED that have the chaos, trickery or luck discriptor.
Green Elven Vampire 08-10-07, 11:04 PM	Trying to make an improved arcane trickster that is elven? A rogue/ wizard that is Erevan specific. More like a specialist in a thieves guild devoted to Erevan Ilesere.
Green Elven Vampire 08-10-07, 11:05 PM	improve no try to make a lev one 1 in to 47 epic spell slinger that just makes micsheaf yes. I'm sorry, I couldn't understand your broken english. Can you please repeat that?