Were-Dragon??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Were-Dragon??? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
FineasBoggs
03-12-07, 07:50 PM Is there anywhere they are mentioned or written up? (2nd or 3rd edition is fine.)

-TIA
Myssa Rei
03-12-07, 08:00 PM A 'were-dragon' is basically what ignorant people and somewhat uninformed scribes called song dragons back in the previous editions. :)
FineasBoggs
03-12-07, 08:07 PM Any source references?

That makes some sense....I guess Volo would be lumped in with that group no?
Myssa Rei
03-12-07, 08:15 PM I'm sure that there are sages here and there, as well in the real Candlekeep (no, not the forum) that know what the song dragon/were-dragon connection really is, as well as wizards versed in Dragon Lore.

As for Volo, well, this is Volo we're talking about here. It's well known that if he does somehow get something right, he's guaranteed to gain the ire of anywhere from a dozen to a score of very powerful individuals, Elminster first and foremost.

For 3rd Edition, you can learn more about the song dragons from Monsters of Faerun, as well as Dragons of Faerun. As for the older sources, mayhaps some of the older sages will provide that for you?
FineasBoggs
03-12-07, 08:20 PM Thanks much.
TomCosta
03-14-07, 03:35 PM Weredragons are a creation of Ed Greenwood himself and originally appeared in a 2E issue of Dragon magazine, wherein it was noted even then that they weren't actually were-creatures. When it came time to update them, they were renamed song dragons. In addition to the sources noted already, the Rage series of novels features a song dragon as one of the lead characters.
FineasBoggs
03-14-07, 03:42 PM HAHA! Many thanks more.
Serik_Swift
03-17-07, 02:50 AM wouldn't a were dragon be more overkill than a hill giant wereboar?
Tevin Kevlak
03-17-07, 02:16 PM Well if you mean Weredragons as in creatures afflicted with lycanthropy of a draconic strain, then no. Dragons are of the Dragon type and thus cannot be used in the lycanthrope template as it calls for an animal type form.

But a Were T-Rex Hill Giant probably would be.
Zireael
03-20-07, 09:48 AM There are no were-dragons in 3E, they were substituted with song dragons, but they aren't lycanthropes.
feraltibbit
03-20-07, 01:06 PM Well if you mean Weredragons as in creatures afflicted with lycanthropy of a draconic strain, then no. Dragons are of the Dragon type and thus cannot be used in the lycanthrope template as it calls for an animal type form.

But a Were T-Rex Hill Giant probably would be.

A WERE-T-Rex Hill Giant:confused: ?! Holy Reptiles, Batman:eek: ! That IS overkill! Great :lightbulb 4 my high-powered campaign. Yes, I do crazy things like this (AKA the "mad :evillaugh scientist" routine).
Ramar Aulinvox
03-21-07, 09:02 AM I think Greenwood had a were-dragon character in the book Elminister, The Making of a Mage. It's not game material, but dose give some fluff.
FineasBoggs
03-21-07, 02:13 PM I'll check that out. Thanks.
Faraer
03-21-07, 03:47 PM There are no were-dragons in 3E, they were substituted with song dragons, but they aren't lycanthropes.They were simply renamed song dragons; both names are used in Faerūn ('weredragon' not just by the ignorant).
FineasBoggs
03-22-07, 01:30 PM Dragons of Faerun has a ditty on the Sisterhood of Essembra which pretty much confirms everything that's been said, dealing with my original source for the question.
herceg
03-22-07, 02:04 PM I think Greenwood had a were-dragon character in the book Elminister, The Making of a Mage. It's not game material, but dose give some fluff.

You mean the malaugrym that was thought to be a yuan-ti masquerading as a human Magelord who took dragon form for a short time in the ending of the novel? :)
Faraer
03-22-07, 06:25 PM I don't recall a weredragon/song dragon in Elminster: The Making of a Mage. Try Elminster's Daughter.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
FineasBoggs 03-12-07, 07:50 PM	Is there anywhere they are mentioned or written up? (2nd or 3rd edition is fine.) -TIA
Myssa Rei 03-12-07, 08:00 PM	A 'were-dragon' is basically what ignorant people and somewhat uninformed scribes called song dragons back in the previous editions. :)
FineasBoggs 03-12-07, 08:07 PM	Any source references? That makes some sense....I guess Volo would be lumped in with that group no?
Myssa Rei 03-12-07, 08:15 PM	I'm sure that there are sages here and there, as well in the real Candlekeep (no, not the forum) that know what the song dragon/were-dragon connection really is, as well as wizards versed in Dragon Lore. As for Volo, well, this is Volo we're talking about here. It's well known that if he does somehow get something right, he's guaranteed to gain the ire of anywhere from a dozen to a score of very powerful individuals, Elminster first and foremost. For 3rd Edition, you can learn more about the song dragons from Monsters of Faerun, as well as Dragons of Faerun. As for the older sources, mayhaps some of the older sages will provide that for you?
FineasBoggs 03-12-07, 08:20 PM	Thanks much.
TomCosta 03-14-07, 03:35 PM	Weredragons are a creation of Ed Greenwood himself and originally appeared in a 2E issue of Dragon magazine, wherein it was noted even then that they weren't actually were-creatures. When it came time to update them, they were renamed song dragons. In addition to the sources noted already, the Rage series of novels features a song dragon as one of the lead characters.
FineasBoggs 03-14-07, 03:42 PM	HAHA! Many thanks more.
Serik_Swift 03-17-07, 02:50 AM	wouldn't a were dragon be more overkill than a hill giant wereboar?
Tevin Kevlak 03-17-07, 02:16 PM	Well if you mean Weredragons as in creatures afflicted with lycanthropy of a draconic strain, then no. Dragons are of the Dragon type and thus cannot be used in the lycanthrope template as it calls for an animal type form. But a Were T-Rex Hill Giant probably would be.
Zireael 03-20-07, 09:48 AM	There are no were-dragons in 3E, they were substituted with song dragons, but they aren't lycanthropes.
feraltibbit 03-20-07, 01:06 PM	Well if you mean Weredragons as in creatures afflicted with lycanthropy of a draconic strain, then no. Dragons are of the Dragon type and thus cannot be used in the lycanthrope template as it calls for an animal type form. But a Were T-Rex Hill Giant probably would be. A WERE-T-Rex Hill Giant:confused: ?! Holy Reptiles, Batman:eek: ! That IS overkill! Great :lightbulb 4 my high-powered campaign. Yes, I do crazy things like this (AKA the "mad :evillaugh scientist" routine).
Ramar Aulinvox 03-21-07, 09:02 AM	I think Greenwood had a were-dragon character in the book Elminister, The Making of a Mage. It's not game material, but dose give some fluff.
FineasBoggs 03-21-07, 02:13 PM	I'll check that out. Thanks.
Faraer 03-21-07, 03:47 PM	There are no were-dragons in 3E, they were substituted with song dragons, but they aren't lycanthropes.They were simply renamed song dragons; both names are used in Faerūn ('weredragon' not just by the ignorant).
FineasBoggs 03-22-07, 01:30 PM	Dragons of Faerun has a ditty on the Sisterhood of Essembra which pretty much confirms everything that's been said, dealing with my original source for the question.
herceg 03-22-07, 02:04 PM	I think Greenwood had a were-dragon character in the book Elminister, The Making of a Mage. It's not game material, but dose give some fluff. You mean the malaugrym that was thought to be a yuan-ti masquerading as a human Magelord who took dragon form for a short time in the ending of the novel? :)
Faraer 03-22-07, 06:25 PM	I don't recall a weredragon/song dragon in Elminster: The Making of a Mage. Try Elminster's Daughter.