Elven Artifacts: Highfire Crown and Arcstaff of Khovaerm [Archive] - Wizards Community

Elven Artifacts: Highfire Crown and Arcstaff of Khovaerm [Archive] - Wizards Community

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the_mad_prophet
03-17-08, 02:31 AM Alright, so....being the elf that i am, i have made many a bad-ass elven arcmage that has been searching Faerun over for the location of 2 artifacts...always to no avail...i was wondering if anyone knows the location of either the Highfire Crown, or the Arcstaff of Khovaerm?
Alleran
03-17-08, 08:34 AM I asked about the Arcstaff a little while ago, and the answer is basically "nobody knows". About the most one could say is that its last known location was within the Irythil vaults in Myth Drannor, and that wherever it is now (it may still be there, or it may be elsewhere), it is sealed within some form of stasis field.

In terms of what I've done with it, one of the characters in my campaign currently possesses the Arcstaff.
Jiggawha
03-18-08, 07:21 AM Highfire Crown appeared in Blackstaff

it can be anywhere in FR

also, I asked Schend about Ualair's selu'kirrra:

Honestly, I'd forgotten to do anything with Ualair's selu'kiira. Thus, there's a number of things that can be done. Until Wotc addresses it, it's up in the air as to what's canonical or not.

A) It (and he, as the former Grand Mage of Cormanthyr) has joined with the Highfire Crown and it is now composed of 14 individual gems/personages that lurk about the Realms and come together when called or desired to do so. [This is the most likely happening.]

B) Someone of elvish descent in the ritual has gained Ualair's selu'kiira and is using it. [This makes it perfect for introduction into a campaign if an NPC your players interact with suddenly starts having insights and more knowledge about things...]

C) ELminster or one of the Chosen (not Laeral, though) has received the kiira and holds it for safe-keeping. [This is the 2nd most likely thing to happen, and then said Chosen can bequeath it to a deserving person.]

D) The gem blips around the Realms, temporarily attaching itself to items and leading people it deems worthy into Rhymanthiin.
Krash
03-18-08, 11:13 PM I thought the Arcstaff was in the the hoard of the green dracolich Venominhandar in the Cormanthyr Woods ... it's mentioned in the "Cult of the Dragon" sourcebook IIRC.

-- George Krashos
Alleran
03-19-08, 11:06 AM I thought the Arcstaff was in the the hoard of the green dracolich Venominhandar in the Cormanthyr Woods ... it's mentioned in the "Cult of the Dragon" sourcebook IIRC.
I'm poking through that book now, and can't see the reference. Where exactly would it be?
selunatic2397
03-19-08, 11:14 PM Wasn't the staff that that dracolich had was the diamond lorestaff of Chomylla? [Spelling?] :confused:
MarkusTay63
03-21-08, 05:41 PM I'm poking through that book now, and can't see the reference. Where exactly would it be?All references to Venominhandar appear on pgs 51-53, but I see no menion of the Arcstaff.

It is probably one of the three long-lost lorestaffs of Uvarean, along with the diamond staff of Chomylla, mentioned above.
Krash
03-21-08, 10:22 PM :blush: Opps, my mistake. It is indeed the Diamond Staff of Chomylla. Looks like that senility thing is kicking in ...

-- George Krashos
18DELTA
03-22-08, 04:29 PM Highfire Crown appeared in Blackstaff

it can be anywhere in FR

also, I asked Schend about Ualair's selu'kirrra:

Honestly, I'd forgotten to do anything with Ualair's selu'kiira. Thus, there's a number of things that can be done. Until Wotc addresses it, it's up in the air as to what's canonical or not.

A) It (and he, as the former Grand Mage of Cormanthyr) has joined with the Highfire Crown and it is now composed of 14 individual gems/personages that lurk about the Realms and come together when called or desired to do so. [This is the most likely happening.]

B) Someone of elvish descent in the ritual has gained Ualair's selu'kiira and is using it. [This makes it perfect for introduction into a campaign if an NPC your players interact with suddenly starts having insights and more knowledge about things...]

C) ELminster or one of the Chosen (not Laeral, though) has received the kiira and holds it for safe-keeping. [This is the 2nd most likely thing to happen, and then said Chosen can bequeath it to a deserving person.]

D) The gem blips around the Realms, temporarily attaching itself to items and leading people it deems worthy into Rhymanthiin.

-Good, I just started to read that novel today.:D LK didn't you say that novel is the best Realms novel there is(or one of the best). Just finished "Undead".:eek:

18DELTA:cool:
selunatic2397
03-25-08, 02:12 PM :blush: Opps, my mistake. It is indeed the Diamond Staff of Chomylla. Looks like that senility thing is kicking in ...

-- George Krashos

WOW! *awestruck moment of silence* did I actually beat Krash and Marcus to a lore tidbit?

I game on the next weeks Friday Krash and Marcus, the pizza and beer are on me!!! :D :cloud9: :w00t:
MarkusTay63
03-28-08, 06:57 PM No one's infallible, but Krash's knowledge of the Realms far exceeds my own (as does Old Sage's and several other regulars).

You should read a certain thread over at CK, where Krash pointed out a piece of Realmslore to Steven schend... lore HE HIMSELF wrote! :D

I think even Ed has troubling remembering everything he ever wrote about the Realms, and the man's a walking encyclopedia. :P
selunatic2397
03-28-08, 07:41 PM How do you like your pizza? I am firing up the next pathfinder campaign arc on next Friday if you and Krash want to play.:D
Krash
03-30-08, 11:32 PM Let's see, the last time I played D&D we still had THACOs and Saves v. rod/staff/wand and all of the Seven Sisters hadn't been revealed.:)

So I guess I'll have to pass. Thanks for the invite though.:D

-- George Krashos
Ifthir
03-31-08, 07:39 PM You should read a certain thread over at CK, where Krash pointed out a piece of Realmslore to Steven schend... lore HE HIMSELF wrote! :D

Gotta love the amount of reading one has to do to contribute on the GHotR, which, as a side note, is possibly the greatest accessory in FR Canon history. Someone get this guy an entry in the Chamber of Sages over at Candlekeep already so we can start pestering him for more lore! :D
Ifthir
03-31-08, 07:45 PM Now, back on topic, the notes I remember about the Highfire crown's location involved these clues:

"Sighted only briefly after the establishment of the mythal over Elven Court, the Highfire Crown was a mysterious portent for the surviving elves after the Fall of Myth Drannor."

-and-

"The soon-to-be-legendary Highfire Crown hovered at the peak of the new mythal for the first night of its life, then merged with the next day's dawn, like Eltargrim's Passing. "

Based on novels, etc, the likely possesser of the Highfire crown, imho, is the Srinshee. As to the Arcstaff, I know of no canon entry even touching upon it's current owner, but in your campaign, you can go with whatever RP dictates :)
MarkusTay63
04-01-08, 06:02 PM This question has become part of a contest, so it seems - read question #10 here -

The Sage Contest (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4mst/ask)

I have found the third lorestaff of Uvarean - it would be the Lord's staff used by Azoun to slay the devil-dragon Nalavara, so at least we have names for all three.

Arcstaff
Diamond Staff
Lord's Staff

Where the two items in the OP's question are is anyone's guess - I think a DM is supposed to place them himself. This game does require a little ingenuity to run, after all. ;)
Krash
04-02-08, 07:58 AM Gotta love the amount of reading one has to do to contribute on the GHotR, which, as a side note, is possibly the greatest accessory in FR Canon history. Someone get this guy an entry in the Chamber of Sages over at Candlekeep already so we can start pestering him for more lore! :D

I declined a "listing" in the Chamber of Sages a while ago. I didn't and don't think I warrant it. Three Dragon articles and 3000 words and a bunch of tables on kings and queens in GHotR is hardly a resume requiring that kind of recognition.

Everyone knows that I'm only an e-mail away if they want to pester me about realmslore.

-- George Krashos
Shiftkitty
04-03-08, 03:19 PM Can I borrow this thread for a moment? Thanks.

On the subject of missing artifacts, I don't have many novels and most of my 2e stuff is missing. Does anyone know the location or fate of the Sword of Tethyr? (I think I identified it right. It's the sword that elf used to kill those two dragons. Egad, I sound like such a noob...:embarrass :) ) I ask because one of my PCs recently laid his hands on a magical sword, and he might not be powerful enough to merit such an artifact, so any information on it would be a great help. He hasn't identified the sword yet, so he'll never know I was even considering it.
MarkusTay63
04-06-08, 01:31 AM You might be better off asking that in Steven Schend's scroll over at CK - if anyone knows where something in the Lands of Intrigue is, it would be the man who pretty much created them.
Shiftkitty
04-06-08, 12:48 PM I'll do that. Thanks!
mltryman
04-09-08, 02:10 AM I'm curious .. where can i find the stats on all 3 of those lost lore staves as well as the highfire crown?
The Simbul
05-05-08, 01:58 PM Now, back on topic, the notes I remember about the Highfire crown's location involved these clues:

"Sighted only briefly after the establishment of the mythal over Elven Court, the Highfire Crown was a mysterious portent for the surviving elves after the Fall of Myth Drannor."

-and-

"The soon-to-be-legendary Highfire Crown hovered at the peak of the new mythal for the first night of its life, then merged with the next day's dawn, like Eltargrim's Passing. "

Based on novels, etc, the likely possesser of the Highfire crown, imho, is the Srinshee. As to the Arcstaff, I know of no canon entry even touching upon it's current owner, but in your campaign, you can go with whatever RP dictates :)I surmise that the Highfire Crown was in the possession of Khelben Blackstaff, as it was used in the High Magic ritual that created Rhymanthiin the City of Hope. I would be inclined to believe the crown resides there, given that the wards of the city prevent "those with malice in their hearts" from finding a path to it, and as such it would be a good place to sequester it for the time being.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
the_mad_prophet 03-17-08, 02:31 AM	Alright, so....being the elf that i am, i have made many a bad-ass elven arcmage that has been searching Faerun over for the location of 2 artifacts...always to no avail...i was wondering if anyone knows the location of either the Highfire Crown, or the Arcstaff of Khovaerm?
Alleran 03-17-08, 08:34 AM	I asked about the Arcstaff a little while ago, and the answer is basically "nobody knows". About the most one could say is that its last known location was within the Irythil vaults in Myth Drannor, and that wherever it is now (it may still be there, or it may be elsewhere), it is sealed within some form of stasis field. In terms of what I've done with it, one of the characters in my campaign currently possesses the Arcstaff.
Jiggawha 03-18-08, 07:21 AM	Highfire Crown appeared in Blackstaff it can be anywhere in FR also, I asked Schend about Ualair's selu'kirrra: Honestly, I'd forgotten to do anything with Ualair's selu'kiira. Thus, there's a number of things that can be done. Until Wotc addresses it, it's up in the air as to what's canonical or not. A) It (and he, as the former Grand Mage of Cormanthyr) has joined with the Highfire Crown and it is now composed of 14 individual gems/personages that lurk about the Realms and come together when called or desired to do so. [This is the most likely happening.] B) Someone of elvish descent in the ritual has gained Ualair's selu'kiira and is using it. [This makes it perfect for introduction into a campaign if an NPC your players interact with suddenly starts having insights and more knowledge about things...] C) ELminster or one of the Chosen (not Laeral, though) has received the kiira and holds it for safe-keeping. [This is the 2nd most likely thing to happen, and then said Chosen can bequeath it to a deserving person.] D) The gem blips around the Realms, temporarily attaching itself to items and leading people it deems worthy into Rhymanthiin.
Krash 03-18-08, 11:13 PM	I thought the Arcstaff was in the the hoard of the green dracolich Venominhandar in the Cormanthyr Woods ... it's mentioned in the "Cult of the Dragon" sourcebook IIRC. -- George Krashos
Alleran 03-19-08, 11:06 AM	I thought the Arcstaff was in the the hoard of the green dracolich Venominhandar in the Cormanthyr Woods ... it's mentioned in the "Cult of the Dragon" sourcebook IIRC. I'm poking through that book now, and can't see the reference. Where exactly would it be?
selunatic2397 03-19-08, 11:14 PM	Wasn't the staff that that dracolich had was the diamond lorestaff of Chomylla? [Spelling?] :confused:
MarkusTay63 03-21-08, 05:41 PM	I'm poking through that book now, and can't see the reference. Where exactly would it be?All references to Venominhandar appear on pgs 51-53, but I see no menion of the Arcstaff. It is probably one of the three long-lost lorestaffs of Uvarean, along with the diamond staff of Chomylla, mentioned above.
Krash 03-21-08, 10:22 PM	:blush: Opps, my mistake. It is indeed the Diamond Staff of Chomylla. Looks like that senility thing is kicking in ... -- George Krashos
18DELTA 03-22-08, 04:29 PM	Highfire Crown appeared in Blackstaff it can be anywhere in FR also, I asked Schend about Ualair's selu'kirrra: Honestly, I'd forgotten to do anything with Ualair's selu'kiira. Thus, there's a number of things that can be done. Until Wotc addresses it, it's up in the air as to what's canonical or not. A) It (and he, as the former Grand Mage of Cormanthyr) has joined with the Highfire Crown and it is now composed of 14 individual gems/personages that lurk about the Realms and come together when called or desired to do so. [This is the most likely happening.] B) Someone of elvish descent in the ritual has gained Ualair's selu'kiira and is using it. [This makes it perfect for introduction into a campaign if an NPC your players interact with suddenly starts having insights and more knowledge about things...] C) ELminster or one of the Chosen (not Laeral, though) has received the kiira and holds it for safe-keeping. [This is the 2nd most likely thing to happen, and then said Chosen can bequeath it to a deserving person.] D) The gem blips around the Realms, temporarily attaching itself to items and leading people it deems worthy into Rhymanthiin. -Good, I just started to read that novel today.:D LK didn't you say that novel is the best Realms novel there is(or one of the best). Just finished "Undead".:eek: 18DELTA:cool:
selunatic2397 03-25-08, 02:12 PM	:blush: Opps, my mistake. It is indeed the Diamond Staff of Chomylla. Looks like that senility thing is kicking in ... -- George Krashos WOW! awestruck moment of silence did I actually beat Krash and Marcus to a lore tidbit? I game on the next weeks Friday Krash and Marcus, the pizza and beer are on me!!! :D :cloud9: :w00t:
MarkusTay63 03-28-08, 06:57 PM	No one's infallible, but Krash's knowledge of the Realms far exceeds my own (as does Old Sage's and several other regulars). You should read a certain thread over at CK, where Krash pointed out a piece of Realmslore to Steven schend... lore HE HIMSELF wrote! :D I think even Ed has troubling remembering everything he ever wrote about the Realms, and the man's a walking encyclopedia. :P
selunatic2397 03-28-08, 07:41 PM	How do you like your pizza? I am firing up the next pathfinder campaign arc on next Friday if you and Krash want to play.:D
Krash 03-30-08, 11:32 PM	Let's see, the last time I played D&D we still had THACOs and Saves v. rod/staff/wand and all of the Seven Sisters hadn't been revealed.:) So I guess I'll have to pass. Thanks for the invite though.:D -- George Krashos
Ifthir 03-31-08, 07:39 PM	You should read a certain thread over at CK, where Krash pointed out a piece of Realmslore to Steven schend... lore HE HIMSELF wrote! :D Gotta love the amount of reading one has to do to contribute on the GHotR, which, as a side note, is possibly the greatest accessory in FR Canon history. Someone get this guy an entry in the Chamber of Sages over at Candlekeep already so we can start pestering him for more lore! :D
Ifthir 03-31-08, 07:45 PM	Now, back on topic, the notes I remember about the Highfire crown's location involved these clues: "Sighted only briefly after the establishment of the mythal over Elven Court, the Highfire Crown was a mysterious portent for the surviving elves after the Fall of Myth Drannor." -and- "The soon-to-be-legendary Highfire Crown hovered at the peak of the new mythal for the first night of its life, then merged with the next day's dawn, like Eltargrim's Passing. " Based on novels, etc, the likely possesser of the Highfire crown, imho, is the Srinshee. As to the Arcstaff, I know of no canon entry even touching upon it's current owner, but in your campaign, you can go with whatever RP dictates :)
MarkusTay63 04-01-08, 06:02 PM	This question has become part of a contest, so it seems - read question #10 here - The Sage Contest (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4mst/ask) I have found the third lorestaff of Uvarean - it would be the Lord's staff used by Azoun to slay the devil-dragon Nalavara, so at least we have names for all three. Arcstaff Diamond Staff Lord's Staff Where the two items in the OP's question are is anyone's guess - I think a DM is supposed to place them himself. This game does require a little ingenuity to run, after all. ;)
Krash 04-02-08, 07:58 AM	Gotta love the amount of reading one has to do to contribute on the GHotR, which, as a side note, is possibly the greatest accessory in FR Canon history. Someone get this guy an entry in the Chamber of Sages over at Candlekeep already so we can start pestering him for more lore! :D I declined a "listing" in the Chamber of Sages a while ago. I didn't and don't think I warrant it. Three Dragon articles and 3000 words and a bunch of tables on kings and queens in GHotR is hardly a resume requiring that kind of recognition. Everyone knows that I'm only an e-mail away if they want to pester me about realmslore. -- George Krashos
Shiftkitty 04-03-08, 03:19 PM	Can I borrow this thread for a moment? Thanks. On the subject of missing artifacts, I don't have many novels and most of my 2e stuff is missing. Does anyone know the location or fate of the Sword of Tethyr? (I think I identified it right. It's the sword that elf used to kill those two dragons. Egad, I sound like such a noob...:embarrass :) ) I ask because one of my PCs recently laid his hands on a magical sword, and he might not be powerful enough to merit such an artifact, so any information on it would be a great help. He hasn't identified the sword yet, so he'll never know I was even considering it.
MarkusTay63 04-06-08, 01:31 AM	You might be better off asking that in Steven Schend's scroll over at CK - if anyone knows where something in the Lands of Intrigue is, it would be the man who pretty much created them.
Shiftkitty 04-06-08, 12:48 PM	I'll do that. Thanks!
mltryman 04-09-08, 02:10 AM	I'm curious .. where can i find the stats on all 3 of those lost lore staves as well as the highfire crown?
The Simbul 05-05-08, 01:58 PM	Now, back on topic, the notes I remember about the Highfire crown's location involved these clues: "Sighted only briefly after the establishment of the mythal over Elven Court, the Highfire Crown was a mysterious portent for the surviving elves after the Fall of Myth Drannor." -and- "The soon-to-be-legendary Highfire Crown hovered at the peak of the new mythal for the first night of its life, then merged with the next day's dawn, like Eltargrim's Passing. " Based on novels, etc, the likely possesser of the Highfire crown, imho, is the Srinshee. As to the Arcstaff, I know of no canon entry even touching upon it's current owner, but in your campaign, you can go with whatever RP dictates :)I surmise that the Highfire Crown was in the possession of Khelben Blackstaff, as it was used in the High Magic ritual that created Rhymanthiin the City of Hope. I would be inclined to believe the crown resides there, given that the wards of the city prevent "those with malice in their hearts" from finding a path to it, and as such it would be a good place to sequester it for the time being.