Where's my pistol? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Where's my pistol? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Serge_P
07-05-07, 09:38 AM I have a Lantan Swashbuckler with mercantile background, and he chooses the pistol as bonus stuff. Where (Which page in which book) are the rules for pistols?
Zevox
07-05-07, 02:56 PM 3.5 Dungeon Master's Guide, page 144, has rules for pistols along with a couple of other Renaissance-style weapons. They're pretty inefficient compared to a good bow or crossbow, but they're there.

Zevox
The_Wrath_of_Talos
07-05-07, 03:48 PM The modern books have several types of pistols and they explain the rules on using them in combat. Also check out the weapons locker book.
dragonheart
07-06-07, 08:51 AM just remember that there is a reason that anything beyond a wheelock is in the modern books and not the core D&D books. Core D&D basically can be used to cover the timeframe 50k BC to 1550 AD the weapons in modern are all developed after 1550 AD.
Purple Dragon Knight
07-07-07, 01:32 PM Gnome Gunner [Regional]
Prerequisites: Gnome (Lantan, Thesk, The Western Heartlands).
Benefits: You are proficient with all weapons powered by smokepowder or designated as firearms. All firearms are listed in the DMG under "Exotic Weapons (Firearms)". A weapon is considered powered by smokepowder if its description lists a smokepowder or gunpowder requirement.
In addition, thanks to both the intimate level of worksmanship and skill that the Forgotten Folk have devoted towards the development of the firearm, you have a natural knack at loading these devices in an optimal fashion and drawing the full potential of a charge of smokepowder: when using a firearm, you gain a +1 racial bonus to damage and only require a move action to reload the weapon. This application of the feat only applies to the use of firearms, and not to other weapons covered by this feat (i.e. such as large siege engines powered by smokepowder).
Normal: Without this feat, you must select the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearms) feat, as per p.144 of the DMG, to eliminate the nonprofiency penalty you take when wielding any firearm. Also, a firearm normally requires a standard action to reload.
Special: You may select this feat only at a 1st level character. You may have only one Regional feat. A fighter may select Gnome Gunner as his 1st level fighter bonus feat.
The WarOverlord
07-09-07, 03:39 AM just remember that there is a reason that anything beyond a wheelock is in the modern books and not the core D&D books. Core D&D basically can be used to cover the timeframe 50k BC to 1550 AD the weapons in modern are all developed after 1550 AD.

Just want to emphasize 50,000BC to 1550 AD European Tech, not Chinese Tech in which demons use "fire sticks" against the Chineses gods in ancient lore and Repeating rapid fire crossbows, cannons, rockets and the "firesticks are all being used a few Thousand years before Alexander swiped the idea of the Crossbow while looking for a effective weapons to make his Army invinsible

And more and more evidence is starting to show that even the Europeans weren't as bacward as previuosly thought with the "Dark Ages" brought on by the Church that made habit of destroying or hiding knowledge and technology that would challange or disprove Cannon/teachings of the Church.
dragonheart
07-10-07, 03:13 PM That in many way it wasn't really the "Dark Ages" is fairly well known but at the same time there was a real loss of learning and technology in europe following the fall of Rome. We are still learning just how much of that was salvaged and expanded on by the BYzantines and muslims and then reintroduced during the Renaissance via spain and italy. That said gunpwder was not amoung the thing reintroduced to europe before 1250. Its never actually been clear whether Francis bacon really invents gunpowder or discovers it in a translation and only records his experiments with it and not his source for it. A number of potential sources in persian/arabian/muslim texts do appear to exist. Just when the chinese actually do discover gunpwder is not known but trying to use their folk tales of Demons weilding "firesticks" to prove a use of firarms by a people with no other evidence of their use is pretty weak. we do know that they used rockets and firecrackers (or larger versions) in battles much earlier. the problem is trying to tell how quickly the realities were translated into fables and placed into earlier periods in the process.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Serge_P 07-05-07, 09:38 AM	I have a Lantan Swashbuckler with mercantile background, and he chooses the pistol as bonus stuff. Where (Which page in which book) are the rules for pistols?
Zevox 07-05-07, 02:56 PM	3.5 Dungeon Master's Guide, page 144, has rules for pistols along with a couple of other Renaissance-style weapons. They're pretty inefficient compared to a good bow or crossbow, but they're there. Zevox
The_Wrath_of_Talos 07-05-07, 03:48 PM	The modern books have several types of pistols and they explain the rules on using them in combat. Also check out the weapons locker book.
dragonheart 07-06-07, 08:51 AM	just remember that there is a reason that anything beyond a wheelock is in the modern books and not the core D&D books. Core D&D basically can be used to cover the timeframe 50k BC to 1550 AD the weapons in modern are all developed after 1550 AD.
Purple Dragon Knight 07-07-07, 01:32 PM	Gnome Gunner [Regional] Prerequisites: Gnome (Lantan, Thesk, The Western Heartlands). Benefits: You are proficient with all weapons powered by smokepowder or designated as firearms. All firearms are listed in the DMG under "Exotic Weapons (Firearms)". A weapon is considered powered by smokepowder if its description lists a smokepowder or gunpowder requirement. In addition, thanks to both the intimate level of worksmanship and skill that the Forgotten Folk have devoted towards the development of the firearm, you have a natural knack at loading these devices in an optimal fashion and drawing the full potential of a charge of smokepowder: when using a firearm, you gain a +1 racial bonus to damage and only require a move action to reload the weapon. This application of the feat only applies to the use of firearms, and not to other weapons covered by this feat (i.e. such as large siege engines powered by smokepowder). Normal: Without this feat, you must select the Exotic Weapon Proficiency (firearms) feat, as per p.144 of the DMG, to eliminate the nonprofiency penalty you take when wielding any firearm. Also, a firearm normally requires a standard action to reload. Special: You may select this feat only at a 1st level character. You may have only one Regional feat. A fighter may select Gnome Gunner as his 1st level fighter bonus feat.
The WarOverlord 07-09-07, 03:39 AM	just remember that there is a reason that anything beyond a wheelock is in the modern books and not the core D&D books. Core D&D basically can be used to cover the timeframe 50k BC to 1550 AD the weapons in modern are all developed after 1550 AD. Just want to emphasize 50,000BC to 1550 AD European Tech, not Chinese Tech in which demons use "fire sticks" against the Chineses gods in ancient lore and Repeating rapid fire crossbows, cannons, rockets and the "firesticks are all being used a few Thousand years before Alexander swiped the idea of the Crossbow while looking for a effective weapons to make his Army invinsible And more and more evidence is starting to show that even the Europeans weren't as bacward as previuosly thought with the "Dark Ages" brought on by the Church that made habit of destroying or hiding knowledge and technology that would challange or disprove Cannon/teachings of the Church.
dragonheart 07-10-07, 03:13 PM	That in many way it wasn't really the "Dark Ages" is fairly well known but at the same time there was a real loss of learning and technology in europe following the fall of Rome. We are still learning just how much of that was salvaged and expanded on by the BYzantines and muslims and then reintroduced during the Renaissance via spain and italy. That said gunpwder was not amoung the thing reintroduced to europe before 1250. Its never actually been clear whether Francis bacon really invents gunpowder or discovers it in a translation and only records his experiments with it and not his source for it. A number of potential sources in persian/arabian/muslim texts do appear to exist. Just when the chinese actually do discover gunpwder is not known but trying to use their folk tales of Demons weilding "firesticks" to prove a use of firarms by a people with no other evidence of their use is pretty weak. we do know that they used rockets and firecrackers (or larger versions) in battles much earlier. the problem is trying to tell how quickly the realities were translated into fables and placed into earlier periods in the process.