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Post/Author/DateTime Post
Kirk99
12-06-06, 03:20 PM Which came first Uthuan or Evermeet?
Faraer
12-06-06, 04:07 PM Ulthuan was first mentioned as least as early as Warhammer 2nd edition, 1984. Evermeet was first mentioned in print in 1985 (Dragon #95) but was probably conceived by Ed 10–15 years earlier.
The Heretic
12-06-06, 04:28 PM I'm unfamiliar with Uthuan, but I surmise that is a faraway island full of elves.

Which came first is probably irrelevant since they were both inevitably inspired Tolkien's Valinor or even Avalon.

Faraer- I bow to your superior knowledge.
Kirk99
12-06-06, 04:31 PM Ulthuan was first mentioned as least as early as Warhammer 2nd edition, 1984. Evermeet was first mentioned in print in 1985 (Dragon #95) but was probably conceived by Ed 10–15 years earlier.

Thought so. Damn it.

Although Uthuan is my prefered generic-as-hell, divine-protected, high magically inclined last elven blessed homeland for the fey folk. :D Ulthuan looks more interesting with it's horse shoe asthetic.

I thought Evermeet came fist, oh well.
Kirk99
12-06-06, 04:37 PM Which came first is probably irrelevant since they were both inevitably inspired Tolkien's Valinor or even Avalon.

Blasphemy! Didnt you know Ed of the Greenwood has always lived in a bubble and has never had any outside influence of earth cultures and/or the writings of earth people enter his head, thus Ed and everything he writes is 100% original!:rolleyes: :)
Faraer
12-06-06, 04:45 PM On second thoughts, although the Warhammer world's Elf Kingdoms were published 1984 or earlier, they weren't named Ulthuan until some time after WFRP 1st (1986) and in or before Warhammer 3rd (1987).

And of course both are influenced by Valinor, Avalon, Atlantis, etc. Are you being facetious or does the difference between influence and analogue have to be explained yet once more?
Karsus the Mad
12-06-06, 07:34 PM Ulthuan was first mentioned as least as early as Warhammer 2nd edition, 1984
Whoa....it's that old? The first setting I ever played in was HeroQuest, which was an rpg set in the Warhammer world, and I bought the box (board, cards, cardboard pieces, plastic miniatures, etc) for in 90, 91.
Faraer
12-06-06, 07:46 PM The Warhammer world began as the loosely implied setting of Citadel miniatures in the early 1980s and gradually solidifed through various editions of Warhammer Fantasy Battle and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, under the creative guidance of Rick Priestley and others. By the time of Games Workshop's deal with MB to produce mass-market boardgames set in the Warhammer world, it was quite well developed and had been host to, among other things, one of the most highly regarded RPG scenarios ever, the Enemy Within campaign.
Dark Wizard
12-06-06, 09:05 PM Blasphemy! Didnt you know Ed of the Greenwood has always lived in a bubble and has never had any outside influence of earth cultures and/or the writings of earth people enter his head, thus Ed and everything he writes is 100% original!:rolleyes: :)

Are you misinterpreting the statements GothicDan and I made on threads involving the TSR era addons to the Realms? Or are you being sarcastic due to some other source?
Lord Karsus
12-07-06, 12:26 AM Are you misinterpreting the statements GothicDan and I made on threads involving the TSR era addons to the Realms? Or are you being sarcastic due to some other source?

-Given the smilies, I believe that that is sarcasm.
lone_ranger_84
12-07-06, 09:58 AM Blasphemy! Didnt you know Ed of the Greenwood has always lived in a bubble and has never had any outside influence of earth cultures and/or the writings of earth people enter his head, thus Ed and everything he writes is 100% original!:rolleyes: :)

Hence forth Why he is known as "The Heretic"

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Kirk99 12-06-06, 03:20 PM	Which came first Uthuan or Evermeet?
Faraer 12-06-06, 04:07 PM	Ulthuan was first mentioned as least as early as Warhammer 2nd edition, 1984. Evermeet was first mentioned in print in 1985 (Dragon #95) but was probably conceived by Ed 10–15 years earlier.
The Heretic 12-06-06, 04:28 PM	I'm unfamiliar with Uthuan, but I surmise that is a faraway island full of elves. Which came first is probably irrelevant since they were both inevitably inspired Tolkien's Valinor or even Avalon. Faraer- I bow to your superior knowledge.
Kirk99 12-06-06, 04:31 PM	Ulthuan was first mentioned as least as early as Warhammer 2nd edition, 1984. Evermeet was first mentioned in print in 1985 (Dragon #95) but was probably conceived by Ed 10–15 years earlier. Thought so. Damn it. Although Uthuan is my prefered generic-as-hell, divine-protected, high magically inclined last elven blessed homeland for the fey folk. :D Ulthuan looks more interesting with it's horse shoe asthetic. I thought Evermeet came fist, oh well.
Kirk99 12-06-06, 04:37 PM	Which came first is probably irrelevant since they were both inevitably inspired Tolkien's Valinor or even Avalon. Blasphemy! Didnt you know Ed of the Greenwood has always lived in a bubble and has never had any outside influence of earth cultures and/or the writings of earth people enter his head, thus Ed and everything he writes is 100% original!:rolleyes: :)
Faraer 12-06-06, 04:45 PM	On second thoughts, although the Warhammer world's Elf Kingdoms were published 1984 or earlier, they weren't named Ulthuan until some time after WFRP 1st (1986) and in or before Warhammer 3rd (1987). And of course both are influenced by Valinor, Avalon, Atlantis, etc. Are you being facetious or does the difference between influence and analogue have to be explained yet once more?
Karsus the Mad 12-06-06, 07:34 PM	Ulthuan was first mentioned as least as early as Warhammer 2nd edition, 1984 Whoa....it's that old? The first setting I ever played in was HeroQuest, which was an rpg set in the Warhammer world, and I bought the box (board, cards, cardboard pieces, plastic miniatures, etc) for in 90, 91.
Faraer 12-06-06, 07:46 PM	The Warhammer world began as the loosely implied setting of Citadel miniatures in the early 1980s and gradually solidifed through various editions of Warhammer Fantasy Battle and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay, under the creative guidance of Rick Priestley and others. By the time of Games Workshop's deal with MB to produce mass-market boardgames set in the Warhammer world, it was quite well developed and had been host to, among other things, one of the most highly regarded RPG scenarios ever, the Enemy Within campaign.
Dark Wizard 12-06-06, 09:05 PM	Blasphemy! Didnt you know Ed of the Greenwood has always lived in a bubble and has never had any outside influence of earth cultures and/or the writings of earth people enter his head, thus Ed and everything he writes is 100% original!:rolleyes: :) Are you misinterpreting the statements GothicDan and I made on threads involving the TSR era addons to the Realms? Or are you being sarcastic due to some other source?
Lord Karsus 12-07-06, 12:26 AM	Are you misinterpreting the statements GothicDan and I made on threads involving the TSR era addons to the Realms? Or are you being sarcastic due to some other source? -Given the smilies, I believe that that is sarcasm.
lone_ranger_84 12-07-06, 09:58 AM	Blasphemy! Didnt you know Ed of the Greenwood has always lived in a bubble and has never had any outside influence of earth cultures and/or the writings of earth people enter his head, thus Ed and everything he writes is 100% original!:rolleyes: :) Hence forth Why he is known as "The Heretic"