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lithian lightfoot 09-16-03, 08:13 PM	Hi all. I have recently become opsessed with three things, chocolate, coffee and Cormyrian nobles. I am actually trying to make a book of the nobles and their inter family breeding, or marriages whatever. Also, I plan on it being from the beginning of the Obarskyr line... if any one could offer any help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Kuje31 09-16-03, 09:10 PM	Originally posted by lithian lightfoot Hi all. I have recently become opsessed with three things, chocolate, coffee and Cormyrian nobles. I am actually trying to make a book of the nobles and their inter family breeding, or marriages whatever. Also, I plan on it being from the beginning of the Obarskyr line... if any one could offer any help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks The Cormyr sourcebook has some info on the Cormyrian nobles that might be an interest. I think also that either that book or the Volo's guide has a family tree for Azoun's family.......
lithian lightfoot 09-16-03, 11:54 PM	Which Cormyr source book might you be talking about. Also, I have Volo's Quide, Four from Cormyr, the FRCS, new and old, the Cormyr saga, Elminster's Ecologies (hoping) and that's about it. I have these but I am looking for more info and sources, that are official. If they are not official then that's okay also, the ideas will be great if shared. A ton of salutations.
Green Giant 09-17-03, 12:08 AM	I think Kuje31 is talking about the sourcebook Cormyr by Eric W. Haddock. It lists major nobles of Cormyr and inside the back cover lists which towns or cities they can be found. Dragon Magazine Annual #5 also has some stuff about the nobles after the war. Hope that helps
Harlamond 09-17-03, 12:17 AM	I think that the Elminster's Ecologies only tells about the area about and around Cormyr not its nobles unfortunately.
Kuje31 09-17-03, 12:26 AM	Originally posted by Green Giant I think Kuje31 is talking about the sourcebook Cormyr by Eric W. Haddock. It lists major nobles of Cormyr and inside the back cover lists which towns or cities they can be found. Dragon Magazine Annual #5 also has some stuff about the nobles after the war. Hope that helps That's the one. Sorry I guess I should have been more specific. :)
Faraer 09-17-03, 02:35 PM	Various Realms sages have assembled royal and noble rolls from published sources and Ed's notes, but it's not widely available. The confusion over the Cormyr sourcebook highlights the value of the product codes. That (generally mediocre) one would have been FRS2 if the codes hadn't been cancelled around that time.
lithian lightfoot 09-17-03, 07:16 PM	It is has been grueling to go through all the novels and try to find all the noble names mentioned, on top of figuring out if the person mentioned is infact noble, or just a general, etc. I found some great things in Volo's quide, but I was also wondering something. My experience in the realms so far has been that generals, though not truly nobles, are both noble and treated as nobles. I was wondering how everyonew on the boards saw this. I am thinking about placing most of the generals as nobles, but I know the nobles are very petty in Cormyr, so somehow I don't think this would accur. My reasoning behind it is that the war killed so many important people, this would help to establish some of the governmental control and security back in place....?
Purple Dragon Knight 09-17-03, 10:00 PM	Deleted at the request of the original author.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 09-17-03, 10:49 PM	Originally posted by lithian lightfoot I found some great things in Volo's quide, but I was also wondering something. My experience in the realms so far has been that generals, though not truly nobles, are both noble and treated as nobles. I was wondering how everyonew on the boards saw this. I think there might be some truth to that. I know that throughout history (even recent history), military heroes have been widely revered, and they often end up in positions of political prominence.
Mirtek 09-18-03, 03:44 PM	The second novel of the Finder's Stone Trilogy has the family tree of the Wyvernspurs
Alac Luin 09-18-03, 04:22 PM	Originally posted by lithian lightfoot ... My experience in the realms so far has been that generals, though not truly nobles, are both noble and treated as nobles. I was wondering how everyonew on the boards saw this. I am thinking about placing most of the generals as nobles, but I know the nobles are very petty in Cormyr,.... If we look at this with RL historical ideas, most generals were in fact nobles. It was the duty of every noble family to supply one male child to serve as an officer in the military. This was common from before the dark ages to past the American Civil War (even if America didn’t have “nobles” per say). True enough, a noble family was able to pay someone to take their place, a Commissioned Officer if you will, which typically was another noble whose family already met their commitment, only nobles had the right or ability to lead in the minds of the people of the time. A commoner (as in anyone not a Noble) that gained enough respect to be a general would almost assuredly be “knighted” or given some title. It would be somewhat safe to say any general is part of a noble line, or at least started one.
Trevelyn RedScale 09-25-03, 02:28 AM	try the novel titled simply put cormyr. It goes throught the centuries and lests many of the royal family!