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kkbkbl
04-27-08, 05:27 PM So I've been MIA for the realms since the return of the shade and lolth's silence period's novels and it's been a long time and I have no idea what has been happening in my beloved realms.

Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but...
can someone bring me up to speed?!
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
04-27-08, 09:35 PM Uh, it's a tall order for us to bring you up to speed with what, six to eight years of lore? A little unfair, too, when there is a search engine in existence.

Can you ask a more specific question(s)?
MerrikCale
04-27-08, 10:55 PM So I've been MIA for the realms since the return of the shade and lolth's silence period's novels and it's been a long time and I have no idea what has been happening in my beloved realms.

Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but...
can someone bring me up to speed?!

Sure WoTC has decided that the Realms fans are irrelevant and have decided to destroy the whole thing in an attempt to attract a few new buyers, who probably won't come. In other words, you came back just into time to say good-bye
Lord Karsus
04-28-08, 12:42 AM Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but...
can someone bring me up to speed?!

-Purchase the sourcebook A Grand History of the Realms, which is a complete (and fairly detailed) chronology of the Forgotten Realms up to the current date (1375 DR, Year of the Risen Elfkin), and then an extra ten years into the future just for "fun". When you read some of what happens in those extra ten years, I think you might see why I put that word in quotation marks.
Mula
04-28-08, 02:22 AM So I've been MIA for the realms since the return of the shade and lolth's silence period's novels and it's been a long time and I have no idea what has been happening in my beloved realms.

Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but...
can someone bring me up to speed?!
Sure.
All other drow deities except Lolth and Eilistraee die. Blackstaff dies, Halaster dies, Syluné the ghost-Sister dies for real. Obould becomes much stronger thanks to Gruumsh and does orcish stuff in the North. Sammaster is killed for good. Cormanthor is reclaimed and elves start coming back from Evermeet. Then, a bit later Cyric tricks Tyr into killing Helm. Also, Cyric and Shar kill Mystra and 100 years later 4e rules take over. Some dwarven deities only hardcore fans know about died too.
Stigger
04-28-08, 02:48 AM Very succinctly, if acidly put Mula.
Radacci
04-28-08, 06:18 AM is grand history book detailed? or just a short note of some events?
i'm kinda new to D&D so i'd like to go through some detailed info.
Maybe i should go through FR novels for that?
Lord Karsus
04-28-08, 12:33 PM Sure.
All other drow deities except Lolth and Eilistraee die. Blackstaff dies, Halaster dies, Syluné the ghost-Sister dies for real. Obould becomes much stronger thanks to Gruumsh and does orcish stuff in the North. Sammaster is killed for good. Cormanthor is reclaimed and elves start coming back from Evermeet. Then, a bit later Cyric tricks Tyr into killing Helm. Also, Cyric and Shar kill Mystra and 100 years later 4e rules take over. Some dwarven deities only hardcore fans know about died too.

-Well, a little more that just that happens, but that, more or less, covers the 'major' points.

is grand history book detailed? or just a short note of some events?

-The majority of the entries are a sentence or three. On virtually every other page, there is a text bar further elaborating a specific event, via some kind of 1st person POV presentation.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
04-28-08, 12:38 PM is grand history book detailed? or just a short note of some events?

It's a timeline. Does it go into vast detail? No. Will it give you the gist of what you may need to catch up on? Yes.

i'm kinda new to D&D so i'd like to go through some detailed info.
Maybe i should go through FR novels for that?

Indeed, a lot of details about certain events are to be found in the novels. However, I think reading through the Grand History first is a great idea--then seek out the details that spark your interest. Besides, the Grand History is a great supplement, and I think an essential for any Realms fan (even though it certainly isn't perfect).

PS:

Cyric is suspected of involvement with the Tyr/Helm conflict, but notice it was never stated for a fact that he was involved.
Radacci
04-29-08, 07:50 AM fair enough.
but im sure there's entries like: drizzt is born.
which if i didnt know who it was, i wouldnt know that it was interessting, so it'd be hard to know what's interessting or not.
now i know who he is, and read some books, and it's cool.
but you get my point.
Seems good place to start regardless.

no problem, it's just 35k years of history to catch up on.
will probably take 35 years haha.

The reason i want know as much as possible, is cause i'd like to make a D&D/FR game in the future, and would like to make it a bit more extensive, than just Amn or whatever.
But thats far in the future anyways.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
04-29-08, 11:56 AM fair enough.
but im sure there's entries like: drizzt is born.
which if i didnt know who it was, i wouldnt know that it was interessting, so it'd be hard to know what's interessting or not.

Yes, there are entries like that--events not very important in-setting, and obviously there for fans of Drizzt. I especially love the entry about Wulfgar returning to Icewind Dale--such a pivotal event in the GRAND HISTORY of the Realms!

In spite of trivialities, I still think that book is helpful, a good read, and very much worth the money.
Lord Karsus
04-29-08, 04:02 PM -Hey, in an all-encompassing timeline, you need to include the trivial things, too. In my own setting's timeline, I include NPC birthdates, PC birthdates, and little things like that.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
04-30-08, 12:20 PM -Hey, in an all-encompassing timeline, you need to include the trivial things, too. In my own setting's timeline, I include NPC birthdates, PC birthdates, and little things like that.

I don't mind the birthdates, actually. But "Wulfgar returns to Icewind Dale?" Big deal.

It didn't do anything for me anyway.:)
Stigger
04-30-08, 04:47 PM It does serve as a good reference for what's happening for those who are only familiar with the Realms through those novels though.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
kkbkbl 04-27-08, 05:27 PM	So I've been MIA for the realms since the return of the shade and lolth's silence period's novels and it's been a long time and I have no idea what has been happening in my beloved realms. Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but... can someone bring me up to speed?!
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 04-27-08, 09:35 PM	Uh, it's a tall order for us to bring you up to speed with what, six to eight years of lore? A little unfair, too, when there is a search engine in existence. Can you ask a more specific question(s)?
MerrikCale 04-27-08, 10:55 PM	So I've been MIA for the realms since the return of the shade and lolth's silence period's novels and it's been a long time and I have no idea what has been happening in my beloved realms. Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but... can someone bring me up to speed?! Sure WoTC has decided that the Realms fans are irrelevant and have decided to destroy the whole thing in an attempt to attract a few new buyers, who probably won't come. In other words, you came back just into time to say good-bye
Lord Karsus 04-28-08, 12:42 AM	Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but... can someone bring me up to speed?! -Purchase the sourcebook A Grand History of the Realms, which is a complete (and fairly detailed) chronology of the Forgotten Realms up to the current date (1375 DR, Year of the Risen Elfkin), and then an extra ten years into the future just for "fun". When you read some of what happens in those extra ten years, I think you might see why I put that word in quotation marks.
Mula 04-28-08, 02:22 AM	So I've been MIA for the realms since the return of the shade and lolth's silence period's novels and it's been a long time and I have no idea what has been happening in my beloved realms. Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but... can someone bring me up to speed?! Sure. All other drow deities except Lolth and Eilistraee die. Blackstaff dies, Halaster dies, Syluné the ghost-Sister dies for real. Obould becomes much stronger thanks to Gruumsh and does orcish stuff in the North. Sammaster is killed for good. Cormanthor is reclaimed and elves start coming back from Evermeet. Then, a bit later Cyric tricks Tyr into killing Helm. Also, Cyric and Shar kill Mystra and 100 years later 4e rules take over. Some dwarven deities only hardcore fans know about died too.
Stigger 04-28-08, 02:48 AM	Very succinctly, if acidly put Mula.
Radacci 04-28-08, 06:18 AM	is grand history book detailed? or just a short note of some events? i'm kinda new to D&D so i'd like to go through some detailed info. Maybe i should go through FR novels for that?
Lord Karsus 04-28-08, 12:33 PM	Sure. All other drow deities except Lolth and Eilistraee die. Blackstaff dies, Halaster dies, Syluné the ghost-Sister dies for real. Obould becomes much stronger thanks to Gruumsh and does orcish stuff in the North. Sammaster is killed for good. Cormanthor is reclaimed and elves start coming back from Evermeet. Then, a bit later Cyric tricks Tyr into killing Helm. Also, Cyric and Shar kill Mystra and 100 years later 4e rules take over. Some dwarven deities only hardcore fans know about died too. -Well, a little more that just that happens, but that, more or less, covers the 'major' points. is grand history book detailed? or just a short note of some events? -The majority of the entries are a sentence or three. On virtually every other page, there is a text bar further elaborating a specific event, via some kind of 1st person POV presentation.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 04-28-08, 12:38 PM	is grand history book detailed? or just a short note of some events? It's a timeline. Does it go into vast detail? No. Will it give you the gist of what you may need to catch up on? Yes. i'm kinda new to D&D so i'd like to go through some detailed info. Maybe i should go through FR novels for that? Indeed, a lot of details about certain events are to be found in the novels. However, I think reading through the Grand History first is a great idea--then seek out the details that spark your interest. Besides, the Grand History is a great supplement, and I think an essential for any Realms fan (even though it certainly isn't perfect). PS: Cyric is suspected of involvement with the Tyr/Helm conflict, but notice it was never stated for a fact that he was involved.
Radacci 04-29-08, 07:50 AM	fair enough. but im sure there's entries like: drizzt is born. which if i didnt know who it was, i wouldnt know that it was interessting, so it'd be hard to know what's interessting or not. now i know who he is, and read some books, and it's cool. but you get my point. Seems good place to start regardless. no problem, it's just 35k years of history to catch up on. will probably take 35 years haha. The reason i want know as much as possible, is cause i'd like to make a D&D/FR game in the future, and would like to make it a bit more extensive, than just Amn or whatever. But thats far in the future anyways.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 04-29-08, 11:56 AM	fair enough. but im sure there's entries like: drizzt is born. which if i didnt know who it was, i wouldnt know that it was interessting, so it'd be hard to know what's interessting or not. Yes, there are entries like that--events not very important in-setting, and obviously there for fans of Drizzt. I especially love the entry about Wulfgar returning to Icewind Dale--such a pivotal event in the GRAND HISTORY of the Realms! In spite of trivialities, I still think that book is helpful, a good read, and very much worth the money.
Lord Karsus 04-29-08, 04:02 PM	-Hey, in an all-encompassing timeline, you need to include the trivial things, too. In my own setting's timeline, I include NPC birthdates, PC birthdates, and little things like that.
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin 04-30-08, 12:20 PM	-Hey, in an all-encompassing timeline, you need to include the trivial things, too. In my own setting's timeline, I include NPC birthdates, PC birthdates, and little things like that. I don't mind the birthdates, actually. But "Wulfgar returns to Icewind Dale?" Big deal. It didn't do anything for me anyway.:)
Stigger 04-30-08, 04:47 PM	It does serve as a good reference for what's happening for those who are only familiar with the Realms through those novels though.