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Gardax 10-31-03, 04:38 PM	Stupid question, I know and the final answer is up to the DM, but I seek the general consensus on this. Say I had a character, who for several years drank nothing but holy water. Say this character was bitten by a vampire. Would the blood burn the vampire in the way holy water would burn the vampire if the vampire were to drink holy water? Gardax
Pathanus 10-31-03, 04:41 PM	I would say no. However, if the character is also a lawful good paladin with the half-celestial template, I may have the vampire take 1d6 damage (which would be fast healed very quickly) and not target that character anymore for blood-draining. Path
Masakado 10-31-03, 04:53 PM	As a DM, I'd probably say "No." Your plan has some merit, as in real-life religious instances, holy water was prepared for internal use in order to cure maladies & exorcise evil spirits. However, this was a one shot deal & Holy Water did not apparently offer benefits over time. I suppose the whole "pure liquid entering an impure vessel" notion kicks in. TMK, you also cannot pull the old "Princess Bride" ploy of willingly consuming poisonous substance in order to build an immunity to it. At least there's no hard rule that I've been able to find.
avian tiefling 10-31-03, 08:58 PM	perhaps if the holy water was magically melded into the characters body. otherwise, it MAY have an effect if the character drinks holy water a few hours or minutes before being bitten, while it's still circulating in their bloodstream. but drinking lots of it shouldn't give the character any permanent effects (other than damage of internal organs due to the ingestion of substances poisonous to sentient living creatures of the prime material plane)
Conan 11-02-03, 05:17 AM	Ummm... No. The holy water would enter the stomach and be mixed up with all the other (future) crap there. At which point in time it would lose any and all special properties it once had. Consider if you will a font of holy water that someone then goes and throws up in. :eek: Sounds ugly, hey? Whatever was in the font in the first palce is no longer going to be considered holy water is it? So I'd say, no. Apologies for the mildly graphic nature of the description. ;)
Vexxan 11-02-03, 06:09 AM	The water would find its way to all parts of your body, not just the bloodstream. By the time any of the ingested holy water reached the bloodstream it would be so diluted as to be ineffective when the vampire ingests it. It may taste a little unsatisfactory to the vampire though. However, this IS a fantasy setting so if the DM says it's ok go with it. I'm far too strict and would say no without question.
Gardax 11-03-03, 09:47 AM	Thank you all for your replys. My line of thinking on this was that the blood in our bodies are made of mostly water. The only way we get water is by drinking it. Over time, as the holy water comes in and the non-holy water leaves, any new blood that is made in our bodies will have to be made with the only new water that is available to it, the holy water. Sure at first it will be diluted, but over time it would change as the new comes in and the old goes out. Kind of like if you had a fresh water lake and you started to add salt water to it. Assuming no new fresh water were to enter the lake via rain or river, eventually the lake would become salty as you add more and more salt water to it over the course of several years. But the general consensus seems to be opposed to the idea, so thank you very much :)
Adrian Moonbow 11-04-03, 04:56 AM	You could always drain your body of blood and then exchange it with holy water. Of course you'll have to figure out a way to make your body work without the blood (change how thw body works). It sounds like a kind of undead thingie (living undead using positive energy as ooposed to 'normal' undeads)...
avian tiefling 11-04-03, 07:36 PM	Originally posted by Conan Ummm... No. The holy water would enter the stomach and be mixed up with all the other (future) crap there. At which point in time it would lose any and all special properties it once had. wouldn't that then also apply to healing and other various substances supposed to aid the person through means of imbibement?
haste9 10-21-04, 06:06 PM	Isn't holy water just water that's been blessed? It doesn't have any additional alchemical properties outside of normal water. It just has a divine connection.
staples78 10-21-04, 11:59 PM	Isn't holy water just water that's been blessed? It doesn't have any additional alchemical properties outside of normal water. It just has a divine connection. So a possibility is that each time a person drinks holy water they come under the effect of a bless spell. Holy water = Potion of Blessing No long term effects just the temporary effects of a bless spell.
Charles Phipps 10-22-04, 12:10 AM	A vampire who drinks from someone who injests holy water dies horribly. See Sir Tristan of "Castle Forlorn"
BrianCritchley 10-22-04, 03:24 AM	TMK, you also cannot pull the old "Princess Bride" ploy of willingly consuming poisonous substance in order to build an immunity to it. At least there's no hard rule that I've been able to find. actually there are TWO ways to approuch THAT. first there is the: resist posion regional feat, page 37 FRCS. secondly, on page 49 of the book of vile darkness there is the Poison immunity feat. so yes the rules for developing a resistance or even immunity to a poison are indeed feats. :)