Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Quenditar 02-27-06, 06:59 PM	What is the ū in "Faerūn" for? Does it mark a long vowel? Is it just there to look pretty?
Mr.Sinister 02-27-06, 09:16 PM	Well, if it means anything, in French, the ^ is indeed used to mark a long vowel. I've always pronounced it "fey-roun", or something close to it due to my French accent... but I think the commonly aknowledge pronouciation goes with "fey-run"
Quenditar 02-27-06, 09:20 PM	I pronounce "Faerūn" the same way. (My first language is English, but I know some Sindarin, which marks overlong vowels with a ^). Of course, if I were a huge fan of Forgotten Realms, I wouldn't be asking this question in the first place. :)
Alac Luin 02-27-06, 09:32 PM	Uless I'm mistaken, it is officially pronounced "Fay-rune" Personally, I pronounce it "Fay-run"
Faraer 02-27-06, 10:11 PM	Yes, long vowel. The Realms doesn't use spurious high-fantasy accents or (for the most part) apostrophes.
warlockco 02-27-06, 10:24 PM	I pronouce it as "Fey-rune"
Mad Mage 02-27-06, 10:24 PM	Yes, I've heard it pronounced in multiple Realms PC games as "Fay-roon", so I concur with the general response. If examples must be made, listen to one of the quotes by the shopkeeper Ribald Barterman in Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn. He'll say the continent's name, and you'll hear it. ;)
Lord Karsus 02-27-06, 11:40 PM	-I feel compelled to chime in as well. As the general concensus has stated, the proper pronunciation is "Fey-Rune". I'm no language major, but I am pretty sure that the 'ū' is pronounced much like the German 'ü' (An 'oo' sound).
Quenditar 02-28-06, 12:20 AM	Thanks, everyone. That circumflex wouldn't be so anomalous if any other common words used it. At least in Faerūn, the gratuitous apostrophes stay in the Underdark with other evils that shouldn't see the light of day.
Lord Karsus 02-28-06, 12:25 AM	Thanks, everyone. That circumflex wouldn't be so anomalous if any other common words used it. At least in Faerūn, the gratuitous apostrophes stay in the Underdark with other evils that shouldn't see the light of day. -Ah, that's what it's called. A circumflex. You know, I've grown pretty fond of that little squiggle over the years...
King-bargh 02-28-06, 05:33 AM	Well I say "Färun". Eh...ok so I am a swede, sue me. ;)
Old Sparky 02-28-06, 08:26 AM	Who let the Swede in here? GET HIM!! :hoppingma (just kidding. ;) )
Lord Karsus 02-28-06, 09:15 AM	Well I say "Färun". Eh...ok so I am a swede, sue me. ;) -Don't say things like that! There's enough frivilous lawsuits out there...
Fabius Maximus 02-28-06, 09:31 AM	-I feel compelled to chime in as well. As the general concensus has stated, the proper pronunciation is "Fey-Rune". I'm no language major, but I am pretty sure that the 'ū' is pronounced much like the German 'ü' (An 'oo' sound). Ah... no, sorry. The 'ü' is pronounced like... like... I don't know. There is no sound like that in english. It's knd off funny: In the german synchronised version of BG2, the people say Faerūn like it has been written 'Faerün'. It sounds really silly. Someone seems to misread the character... The normal 'u' in german is pronounced like 'oo'. The 'ū' has excactly the same sound. I pronounce Faerūn almost like King-bargh.
Lord Karsus 02-28-06, 10:16 AM	Ah... no, sorry. The 'ü' is pronounced like... like... I don't know. There is no sound like that in english. It's knd off funny: In the german synchronised version of BG2, the people say Faerūn like it has been written 'Faerün'. It sound really silly. Someone seems to misread the charakter... The normal 'u' in german is pronounced like 'oo'. The 'ū' has excactly the same sound. I pronounce Faerūn almost like King-bargh. -Well, like I said, I am no linguist. A friend was trying to teach me a few words in German a while back. Suffice to say, I don't remember much.
Faraer 02-28-06, 01:09 PM	Thanks, everyone. That circumflex wouldn't be so anomalous if any other common words used it.Selūne does, and a few character names (Argūl in Volo's Guide to Cormyr). I wouldn't be surprised if some instances of it have been removed in editing. No, it's not the German ü (which is somewhat like the French u) sound. The computer games are no guide: in the intro to Baldur's Gate it's pronounced 'Farrun'.
Mr.Sinister 02-28-06, 06:43 PM	Has this question ever been asked to Ed directly? What about asking the setting's author directly... Maybe Kuje can chip in and point us toward one of Ed's replies in his mighty compilation... :bow:
Demetrios 02-28-06, 08:27 PM	Selūne does, and a few character names (Argūl in Volo's Guide to Cormyr). I wouldn't be surprised if some instances of it have been removed in editing. No, it's not the German ü (which is somewhat like the French u) sound. The computer games are no guide: in the intro to Baldur's Gate it's pronounced 'Farrun'. In some cases, it's pronounced that way. Other times it's pronounced FarOOn, which is probably the closer to the correct "ū" pronunciation...
Lord Karsus 02-28-06, 08:30 PM	Has this question ever been asked to Ed directly? What about asking the setting's author directly... Maybe Kuje can chip in and point us toward one of Ed's replies in his mighty compilation... :bow: -Well, what exactly is the question? Why is the 'ū' present, when a plain old 'u' would do?
Quenditar 02-28-06, 11:05 PM	-Well, what exactly is the question? Why is the 'ū' present, when a plain old 'u' would do? That's what I was wondering in a nutshell.
Lord Karsus 02-28-06, 11:13 PM	That's what I was wondering in a nutshell. -Well, if anything, Faerūn looks more interesting than Faerun.
Dradjeel 03-01-06, 08:32 AM	Aye, interesting make look it does. Were it up to me, I'd change the name to Faėrūn, the Ø signifying the same as it does in Eärendil (which Galadriel notably mispronounced in FOTR), namely the splitting of what would otherwise be a diphtong. The spelling would thus be Fa-e-ruun.
Lord Karsus 03-01-06, 08:59 AM	Aye, interesting make look it does. Were it up to me, I'd change the name to Faėrūn, the Ø signifying the same as it does in Eärendil (which Galadriel notably mispronounced in FOTR), namely the splitting of what would otherwise be a diphtong. The spelling would thus be Fa-e-ruun. -Now I think we're going a little overboard. Faerūn is enough, with having to copy and paste the 'ū' and all...
DM_Dracophile 03-01-06, 11:23 AM	Alt + 0251 does the trick as well This page (http://home.earthlink.net/~awinkelried/keyboard_shortcuts.html) is your friend :D
Lord Karsus 03-02-06, 12:25 AM	-It doesn't work for me! I tried like seven or eight times. I'm content to Copy & Paste from MS Word, however. Been doing it so long, it's like second nature.
Quenditar 03-02-06, 12:38 AM	Do you have a laptop? It only works for me if I use the numeric keypad, not the numbers at the top of the keyboard. It also might not work if your computer's "native" language isn't spoken in Western Europe.
Ozymandias V. 03-02-06, 07:27 PM	It's pronounced "fay-roon". The reason the caret is there is that if it were "Faerun" it would be pronounced "fay-run". The caret conveys the intended pronunciation of the name. (side note: The keypad symbols are fun. lol Fęrūn.)
Neos-dionysos 03-02-06, 08:06 PM	The "ū" in "Faerūn" does not only (in my personal opinion) represent a long vowel (so that you don't pronounce it "Fey-run"), but also a word accent, as the circumflex in Ancient Greek, so it should be "Fey-RUNE", with the last syllable being a long "oo" and also accentuated.
Lord Karsus 03-03-06, 12:35 AM	Do you have a laptop? It only works for me if I use the numeric keypad, not the numbers at the top of the keyboard. It also might not work if your computer's "native" language isn't spoken in Western Europe. -Aha! That's it! Quenditar, I love you! I was using the numbers at the top of my keyboard, insteada using the keypad on the side. Now, the ū isn't so difficult anymore. -Oh, yeah, my moment of glee has passed. I don't love you anymore. No hard feelings though- I'm sure you understand.
Elvenknight_Cologne 03-03-06, 04:16 AM	-I feel compelled to chime in as well. As the general concensus has stated, the proper pronunciation is "Fey-Rune". I'm no language major, but I am pretty sure that the 'ū' is pronounced much like the German 'ü' (An 'oo' sound). No, the German speak the "ū" in Faerūn not like a "ü". It is like the french long vowel. Many of us speak the word as it is written, with a short "a" and then a short "e". In the German speak is it possible to pronounce words with these combinations. But with the english "a" and "e", it can be only correct called "Fey-Rune".
Karsus the Mad 03-03-06, 04:41 AM	<diddy music> Rune, dune, sune, boon, spoon, and teriyaki typhoon, Is the proper way, to pronouce Faerūn... <end diddy music> K...I hope that's out of my system now... :embarrass