Gorlist, 3.5 stats [Archive] - Wizards Community

Gorlist, 3.5 stats [Archive] - Wizards Community

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ElaineCunningham
10-27-03, 01:46 PM Some time ago, a number of you participated in a discussion about Liriel Baenre's stats. The end result was reviewed by the WotC game gurus and posted (with some modifications) on this website. (It's still in the Forgotten Realms archives.)

As a long-term project, I'd like to do 3.0-3.5 stat conversions for several of my primary and secondary characters. I'd like to start with a fairly straight-forward character: Gorlist, a drow villain from the Starlight & Shadows trilogy. Anyone who has read the trilogy is welcome to participate. Rules lawyers, on the other hand, will be gleefully welcomed. :)

It is very difficult to translate characters from games to novels, or vice versa. That much is understood. The goal here is to do as close an approximation as we can.

Back when we started with Liriel, I'd mentioned that she was the first step in a long-term goal, which involved creating a reader/gamer resource on my author website that listed stats for most major and several minor characters. The character stats, once nailed down, would be passed along to WotC for official sanction, then posted on my website. At the time, I requested and received permission from the folks at WotC. Unfortunately, the person with whom I was dealing is no longer at WotC, so I'm not sure what that means for the future of this project. I DO have a specific use for Gorlist's stats, however, which is why we're starting with him.

Thanks, in advance, to all who participate!

ec

www.elainecunningham.com (http://www.elainecunningham.com)
Another Gnome
10-27-03, 01:48 PM *starts scribbling down notes*
qstor
10-27-03, 05:37 PM I don't think there's a problem with converting the stats. As long as you don't charge money for it. Eric Boyd converted a lot of FR creatures and put them in a free .pdf.

good luck!

Mike
Another Gnome
10-31-03, 01:46 AM Okay, here's a very sketchy draft to start with. Feats are a little inconvenient, as after choosing Daylight Adaptation (not sure if he had it, but I think that as a Vhaerunian he does) and Endurance + Diehard (in order to keep his Con at a reasonable level for a drow), there are only fighter bonus feats left. Obviously, most fighter bonus feats are raw combat power ill-suited for use as background information.

Skill points are by no means meant to be distributed among all the listed skills, the ones listed are simply those I think he could reasonably choose from after filtering the full list of skills.

The reason for the choice of level was strictly based on Liriel's stats (her base attack bonus, that is). Gorlist should be a better melee combatant than Liriel, but no Drizzt, so I meant to use the early Fyodor stats as the upper limit (so that Fyodor could beat Gorlist when raging) - but since I didn't find them, there may yet be room for one more level.

Anyway, the combat ability should also be reflected in the choice of feats. The Greater Weapon Focus (I don't remember what weapon he prefers without reading the books all the way through again, and I don't have the time for that) given can be switched to Weapon Specialization as needed, but I don't think too much attack/damage potential should be put to one weapon.

So, that explains some of the basics for this suggestion, here's what I have for the statblock so far (3.5 with some FR additions):

***

Gorlist

Male drow Ftr8: CR 9; Medium humanoid (elf); HD 8d10+16; HP 73; Init +3; Spd 30 ft.; AC XX, touch XX, flat-footed XX; Base Atk +8; Grp +10; Atk +10 melee (XdX+X/XX, xxxx) or +10 ranged (XdX+X/XX, xxxx); Full Atk +10/+5 melee (XdX+X/XX, xxxx) or +10/+5 ranged (XdX+X/XX, xxxx); SA -; SQ drow traits; AL CE; SV Fort +8, Ref +5, Will +2; Str 15, Dex 16, Con 15, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 11. Height X ft. X in.
Skills and Feats (33 skill points): Balance +, Bluff +, Climb +, Diplomacy +, Escape Artist +, Gather Information +, Heal +, Hide +, Intimidate +, Jump +, Knowledge (Dungeoneering) +, Knowledge (Geography) +, Knowledge (Local) +, Knowledge (religion) +, Listen +, Move Silently +, Ride +, Search +, Sense Motive +, Spot +, Survival +, Swim +, Tumble +, Use Magic Device +, Use Rope +; Daylight Adaptation, Combat Reflexes, Diehard, Endurance, Greater Weapon Focus (xxx), Weapon Focus (xxx), (3 fighter bonus feats open).
Languages: Elven, Undercommon, Drow Sign Language
Possessions:

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
ElaineCunningham 10-27-03, 01:46 PM	Some time ago, a number of you participated in a discussion about Liriel Baenre's stats. The end result was reviewed by the WotC game gurus and posted (with some modifications) on this website. (It's still in the Forgotten Realms archives.) As a long-term project, I'd like to do 3.0-3.5 stat conversions for several of my primary and secondary characters. I'd like to start with a fairly straight-forward character: Gorlist, a drow villain from the Starlight & Shadows trilogy. Anyone who has read the trilogy is welcome to participate. Rules lawyers, on the other hand, will be gleefully welcomed. :) It is very difficult to translate characters from games to novels, or vice versa. That much is understood. The goal here is to do as close an approximation as we can. Back when we started with Liriel, I'd mentioned that she was the first step in a long-term goal, which involved creating a reader/gamer resource on my author website that listed stats for most major and several minor characters. The character stats, once nailed down, would be passed along to WotC for official sanction, then posted on my website. At the time, I requested and received permission from the folks at WotC. Unfortunately, the person with whom I was dealing is no longer at WotC, so I'm not sure what that means for the future of this project. I DO have a specific use for Gorlist's stats, however, which is why we're starting with him. Thanks, in advance, to all who participate! ec www.elainecunningham.com (http://www.elainecunningham.com)
Another Gnome 10-27-03, 01:48 PM	starts scribbling down notes
qstor 10-27-03, 05:37 PM	I don't think there's a problem with converting the stats. As long as you don't charge money for it. Eric Boyd converted a lot of FR creatures and put them in a free .pdf. good luck! Mike
Another Gnome 10-31-03, 01:46 AM	Okay, here's a very sketchy draft to start with. Feats are a little inconvenient, as after choosing Daylight Adaptation (not sure if he had it, but I think that as a Vhaerunian he does) and Endurance + Diehard (in order to keep his Con at a reasonable level for a drow), there are only fighter bonus feats left. Obviously, most fighter bonus feats are raw combat power ill-suited for use as background information. Skill points are by no means meant to be distributed among all the listed skills, the ones listed are simply those I think he could reasonably choose from after filtering the full list of skills. The reason for the choice of level was strictly based on Liriel's stats (her base attack bonus, that is). Gorlist should be a better melee combatant than Liriel, but no Drizzt, so I meant to use the early Fyodor stats as the upper limit (so that Fyodor could beat Gorlist when raging) - but since I didn't find them, there may yet be room for one more level. Anyway, the combat ability should also be reflected in the choice of feats. The Greater Weapon Focus (I don't remember what weapon he prefers without reading the books all the way through again, and I don't have the time for that) given can be switched to Weapon Specialization as needed, but I don't think too much attack/damage potential should be put to one weapon. So, that explains some of the basics for this suggestion, here's what I have for the statblock so far (3.5 with some FR additions): *** Gorlist Male drow Ftr8: CR 9; Medium humanoid (elf); HD 8d10+16; HP 73; Init +3; Spd 30 ft.; AC XX, touch XX, flat-footed XX; Base Atk +8; Grp +10; Atk +10 melee (XdX+X/XX, xxxx) or +10 ranged (XdX+X/XX, xxxx); Full Atk +10/+5 melee (XdX+X/XX, xxxx) or +10/+5 ranged (XdX+X/XX, xxxx); SA -; SQ drow traits; AL CE; SV Fort +8, Ref +5, Will +2; Str 15, Dex 16, Con 15, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 11. Height X ft. X in. Skills and Feats (33 skill points): Balance +, Bluff +, Climb +, Diplomacy +, Escape Artist +, Gather Information +, Heal +, Hide +, Intimidate +, Jump +, Knowledge (Dungeoneering) +, Knowledge (Geography) +, Knowledge (Local) +, Knowledge (religion) +, Listen +, Move Silently +, Ride +, Search +, Sense Motive +, Spot +, Survival +, Swim +, Tumble +, Use Magic Device +, Use Rope +; Daylight Adaptation, Combat Reflexes, Diehard, Endurance, Greater Weapon Focus (xxx), Weapon Focus (xxx), (3 fighter bonus feats open). Languages: Elven, Undercommon, Drow Sign Language Possessions: