How famous and revered can players become [Archive] - Wizards Community

How famous and revered can players become [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Charles Phipps
09-30-04, 12:02 PM It occurred to me at some point while writing my game notes that the Realms is a fairly complex place where fame can be both a blessing and a curse. The rivalries of the various places in the Realms means that you could save the Obarskyr lineage from annihilation by dragons in Cormyr but instead of becoming a revered hero, discover yourself a villain in Sembia and probably unknown alittle further out.

I was curious how you handled the notion of heroism and the "reward" of fame in the Forgotten Realms.

The PCs are just finishing up the Time of Troubles and discovering that largely most religions are determined to cover up their involvement as they do not wish their deities to be portrayed as so selfish and petty.
ClobberinTime
09-30-04, 04:46 PM Hey, we are often interested in the same stuff- I totally agree with you, one mans sinner is another mans saint. I like to make the realms a place where the good groups compete with one another and really have disparate goals, the best examples of this is the elves, good elves and good humans have often disagreed. Take cormanthyr- Good elves see it as a place to preserve, the humans wanting to keep their people from starving (hey thats good, feed the poor etc..) want to cut it down and make farms, and houses and what not. So there is war and skirmishing etc...
Charles Phipps
09-30-04, 06:48 PM Definitely, the human vs. elf conflict is a classic good vs. good conflict.

Frankly bards are not the most trustworthy sources in the Realms and it also occurs to me that there's alot that can be done with player's adventures in storylines. One thing I'm having fun with at present is that the Forgotten Realms novels are in fact "stories" and the players can and often do find their parts written out or overwritten!

The Moonshaes adventure is the first one I've done it with. You can't have foreigners save the Moonshaes, especially since it ruins the story flow if they follow new gods when its largely a political tract against 'the new gods', and finally no one's heard of say Eshowdow but they've heard of Bhaal....

etc etc etc

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Charles Phipps 09-30-04, 12:02 PM	It occurred to me at some point while writing my game notes that the Realms is a fairly complex place where fame can be both a blessing and a curse. The rivalries of the various places in the Realms means that you could save the Obarskyr lineage from annihilation by dragons in Cormyr but instead of becoming a revered hero, discover yourself a villain in Sembia and probably unknown alittle further out. I was curious how you handled the notion of heroism and the "reward" of fame in the Forgotten Realms. The PCs are just finishing up the Time of Troubles and discovering that largely most religions are determined to cover up their involvement as they do not wish their deities to be portrayed as so selfish and petty.
ClobberinTime 09-30-04, 04:46 PM	Hey, we are often interested in the same stuff- I totally agree with you, one mans sinner is another mans saint. I like to make the realms a place where the good groups compete with one another and really have disparate goals, the best examples of this is the elves, good elves and good humans have often disagreed. Take cormanthyr- Good elves see it as a place to preserve, the humans wanting to keep their people from starving (hey thats good, feed the poor etc..) want to cut it down and make farms, and houses and what not. So there is war and skirmishing etc...
Charles Phipps 09-30-04, 06:48 PM	Definitely, the human vs. elf conflict is a classic good vs. good conflict. Frankly bards are not the most trustworthy sources in the Realms and it also occurs to me that there's alot that can be done with player's adventures in storylines. One thing I'm having fun with at present is that the Forgotten Realms novels are in fact "stories" and the players can and often do find their parts written out or overwritten! The Moonshaes adventure is the first one I've done it with. You can't have foreigners save the Moonshaes, especially since it ruins the story flow if they follow new gods when its largely a political tract against 'the new gods', and finally no one's heard of say Eshowdow but they've heard of Bhaal.... etc etc etc