Is Monsters Of Faerun worth buying? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Is Monsters Of Faerun worth buying? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Bazcasta
08-06-03, 10:24 PM I am still playing by 3 Ed.

Since it is no longer in production, should I buy it before, assuming it will, goes off the shelves in stores or online stores. Or should I just not worry about.

You see I am wondering if it's any good, or if I should put my money into another book?

Should I buy it?
Aurotuli
08-06-03, 10:48 PM While an interesting read, there are two points against it: 1) it is no longer being printed, and 2) most of its creatures will be re-released in upcoming books (albeit, it may be years before all are out). A better buy would be the FR Player's Guide, due to come out early next year. It will have some of the creatures from the Monsters of Faerun in it AFAIK. Also, various region books coming out will be a good sources for monsters, both new and from the Monsters of Faerun.
Bazcasta
08-06-03, 10:53 PM What is AFAIK?

and I still play 3.0 isn't the FR player's guide 3.5?

So is it worth my money to buy it, or are the few monsters in it not worth the money?

Would it alter my campaign if I had it and used it an average amount or would it not affect it much?

thanks
GhostBear25FM
08-06-03, 11:07 PM Oh yeah its a very good read.Personally i thought there was more than what is in the book being its really small but very good.
Mr. Wilson
08-06-03, 11:10 PM Originally posted by Bazcasta
What is AFAIK?

As far as I know.

personally, I own the book because I'm a collector of this stuff, and I use it infrequently.
bradjob
08-07-03, 01:47 AM It provides a nuetral Dragon and a nuetral Undead (good for screwing up Smite attempts). Besides those, I've used it once.
Herr Doktor
08-07-03, 01:54 AM I think it's a little overpriced... if you can get it for cheap (50% off) then I'd recommend you buy it.

You're not going to 3.5? Then maybe you should buy it... but only if you want realms specific beasties that you'll be missing out on by not converting.

Most realms products list alternative creatures... so it's not a must.
FineasBoggs
08-07-03, 03:22 AM The "In the Realms" section under each monster is quite nice. I like it just for that alone.
lokilokust
08-07-03, 07:53 AM i really liked it.
don't get me wrong, it could have been a LOT better, an dit is a bit overpriced...
but there are some good things in there that i've used pretty often.
and, if you decided to swithc over to 3.5, there really is very little ocnversion work to be done.
one final note, i have seen a few people saying not to buy it, becuase it's going out of print.
that's a simply ludicrous argument.
'don't buy it now, because later on, you own't be able to!'
it's nonsense.
buy it now, BECAUSE it's going out of print.
.l.
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Neblin of the Green
08-07-03, 08:10 AM When I bought the book, it was a toss up between Magic of Faerun or the Monsters.

I went with monsters, but now when I look back I should have gotten the magic one first.

Simply because; as said before all monsters have alternative opions available, or as in CotSQ the monsters are detailed anyway in the appendix. As well as, these days our sessions are more about flavour roleplay than hack-slash. And most of my encounters are other parties of player races. I still feel that is the best encounter, from a challenge point of view and motive.

So if I could suggest: Go with a region book or magic of faerun.

Like yourself I'm not converting now, I've invested to much money (South African Rands don't go very far) in 3 ed. to switch just yet.

Cheers
Bazcasta
08-07-03, 12:22 PM I think I'll but it.

I have invested too much money to just push those books aside and buy new ones. I have the SRD though.

I have the FRCS, F&P, RoF, and LoD already, probably buy Monster of Faerun, then Magic of Faerun.

How is Magic of Faerun? What's in it I mean.
Tzalice Minoladir
08-07-03, 12:25 PM I'd buy it just for the firenewt. They're so cute ^.^ I bet they miaow:D

sorry
Shade
08-07-03, 12:50 PM I would hold off until an updated 3.5 version is out. On the other hand, the beholderkin and shadow dragon entries alone are enough to make it worth it.

Shade
Herr Doktor
08-07-03, 12:53 PM People should perhaps read at minimum the first line of the thread starters post...

It doesn't matter that they'll be updated and reprinted in new 3.5 material as he is not going to purchase the 3.5 material.

Magic of Faerūn is an excellent buy! Lots of spells, magical items, some campaign specific presitge classes (i.e. Harper Mage). It also details some of Faerūn's more powerful magics, like the Mythals, and explains Mage Duels and the like.

It's good, and useful. I use it almost as much as I use Lords of Darkness. I need to update the LoD stat-blocks to 3.5 revised edition...
Bazcasta
08-07-03, 02:06 PM Thanks Herr Doktor, people really should read the first line.

More prestige classes ah? :)
I'll have to get that book too, damn now I really need a job.

<edit> My current character is aspiring to be a Cleric/ Assassin/ Strifleader/ Spur Lord.
GhostBear25FM
08-07-03, 02:26 PM Man where just givin our opinions,jeese people are so quick to correct someone or point out stuff of this sort.Its not like they got WAAAAAAY off topic ,christ at least we did'nt start talking about driveway pavement or something:rolleyes:
Shade
08-07-03, 02:26 PM Originally posted by Herr Doktor
People should perhaps read at minimum the first line of the thread starters post...

No offense, Doktor, but how does the following:

I am still playing by 3 Ed.

Translate into this:

It doesn't matter that they'll be updated and reprinted in new 3.5 material as he is not going to purchase the 3.5 material..

Answer: It doesn't, without *assuming* that when the poster wrote "I am stil playing 3 Ed." he really meant, "I am still playing 3 Ed. and will not be purchasing 3.5." Just a point of clarification.

Now that I understand the original poster: Yes, Monster of Faerun is a very good book. Buy it.
GhostBear25FM
08-07-03, 02:28 PM Oh and i got the book at EB for like $10 cause page 67 with the Nishruu had a bleach spot on it luckily i pointed it out they gave me a sweet discount.
Herr Doktor
08-07-03, 02:36 PM Originally posted by Shade
Answer: It doesn't, without *assuming* that when the poster wrote "I am stil playing 3 Ed." he really meant, "I am still playing 3 Ed. and will not be purchasing 3.5." Just a point of clarification.

Now that I understand the original poster: Yes, Monster of Faerun is a very good book. Buy it.
Excepting that in the next post he says:

What is AFAIK?

and I still play 3.0 isn't the FR player's guide 3.5?

So is it worth my money to buy it, or are the few monsters in it not worth the money?

Would it alter my campaign if I had it and used it an average amount or would it not affect it much?

thanks
Which should've made things pretty clear.

Why do you suppose he would mention that he played 3.0 in the first place if it was not actually relevant?

Taking context and assuming is absolutely necessary in online communication. The person is not standing before you so you can't read their tones of body language. You have to assume, if you plan on responding.
Shade
08-07-03, 03:03 PM Originally posted by Herr Doktor
Excepting that in the next post he says:

Which should've made things pretty clear.

Why do you suppose he would mention that he played 3.0 in the first place if it was not actually relevant?

To indicate that he hadn't switched to 3.5 yet but was planning on it, that he wondered whether, given that he intended to switch, it would be worthwhile to buy a 3.0 book that might or might not be re-released in 3.5 format.

Surely that is just as valid a reading as yours? I'm not trying to start a flame fest (heck, if I want that, I'll frequent usenet), I just thought the tone of your post seemed...a bit self righteous. My apologies if mine came off the same.

Shade.
Herr Doktor
08-07-03, 03:07 PM Yes it did.

I likewise apologize, I didn't mean to sound that way either. Only that it had been made clear by now what he intended.
Bazcasta
08-08-03, 09:40 AM JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, I am NOT SWITCHING TO 3.5 FOR A LONG TIME, IF EVER

Thanks for all the help.
saankiip
08-08-03, 09:50 AM Baz...

You should buy FR Monster book - it is excellent!!

I have had it since it came out and let me tell you i love it!

Just my opinion.

saankiip

Oh, and as for not ging to 3.5 - I am with you. I will never be going down that dark path.
Bazcasta
08-08-03, 12:10 PM Okay, I'll buy.. but first i'll get like $5 so I can:D
GoodOlWillickers
08-08-03, 05:57 PM Yes
Cunning Linguist
08-08-03, 07:48 PM Monsters of Faerun is long overdue an update. First and foremost I want one for my 3.5 FR, but I also want to get rid of that Xvim lore. There are no more beasts of Xvim, they are beasts of Bane. (it they exist at all now?) And how about those BaneLiches, did Bane start giving out that info again?
And how about those Tyrantfogs, since Xvim followers turned them all right, but they hunted Baneliches, should not Baneliches turn then real easy now?

Its all small stuff, but I still want it updated.
Reefy
08-08-03, 10:34 PM Originally posted by Cunning Linguist
Monsters of Faerun is long overdue an update. First and foremost I want one for my 3.5 FR, but I also want to get rid of that Xvim lore. There are no more beasts of Xvim, they are beasts of Bane. (it they exist at all now?) And how about those BaneLiches, did Bane start giving out that info again?
And how about those Tyrantfogs, since Xvim followers turned them all right, but they hunted Baneliches, should not Baneliches turn then real easy now?

Its all small stuff, but I still want it updated.

I was wondering about that too, particularly the relations between Bane and the Baneliches.
Kevin Nash
09-27-03, 02:25 AM I'd buy it just for the firenewt. They're so cute ^.^ I bet they miaow

Hands down the coolest monster in the whole book. They ride firebreathing ostriches, what's not to like? I've made entire adventures revolving around them. I custom created them in the NWN computer game for my adventures (simply used Lizardman skin and added firebreathing).

I allow my players to play them as well.
Lashan
09-27-03, 09:25 AM I bought it, but I find I almost never use it. The creatures in it are too specific towards an area or group or too out there. I find I haven't used many of them. I have used Crawling Claws, though.
IIII
09-27-03, 09:51 AM <b>buy it!</b> i just bought on Amazon (used) for $10.96. took 3 days to get to my house.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Bazcasta 08-06-03, 10:24 PM	I am still playing by 3 Ed. Since it is no longer in production, should I buy it before, assuming it will, goes off the shelves in stores or online stores. Or should I just not worry about. You see I am wondering if it's any good, or if I should put my money into another book? Should I buy it?
Aurotuli 08-06-03, 10:48 PM	While an interesting read, there are two points against it: 1) it is no longer being printed, and 2) most of its creatures will be re-released in upcoming books (albeit, it may be years before all are out). A better buy would be the FR Player's Guide, due to come out early next year. It will have some of the creatures from the Monsters of Faerun in it AFAIK. Also, various region books coming out will be a good sources for monsters, both new and from the Monsters of Faerun.
Bazcasta 08-06-03, 10:53 PM	What is AFAIK? and I still play 3.0 isn't the FR player's guide 3.5? So is it worth my money to buy it, or are the few monsters in it not worth the money? Would it alter my campaign if I had it and used it an average amount or would it not affect it much? thanks
GhostBear25FM 08-06-03, 11:07 PM	Oh yeah its a very good read.Personally i thought there was more than what is in the book being its really small but very good.
Mr. Wilson 08-06-03, 11:10 PM	Originally posted by Bazcasta What is AFAIK? As far as I know. personally, I own the book because I'm a collector of this stuff, and I use it infrequently.
bradjob 08-07-03, 01:47 AM	It provides a nuetral Dragon and a nuetral Undead (good for screwing up Smite attempts). Besides those, I've used it once.
Herr Doktor 08-07-03, 01:54 AM	I think it's a little overpriced... if you can get it for cheap (50% off) then I'd recommend you buy it. You're not going to 3.5? Then maybe you should buy it... but only if you want realms specific beasties that you'll be missing out on by not converting. Most realms products list alternative creatures... so it's not a must.
FineasBoggs 08-07-03, 03:22 AM	The "In the Realms" section under each monster is quite nice. I like it just for that alone.
lokilokust 08-07-03, 07:53 AM	i really liked it. don't get me wrong, it could have been a LOT better, an dit is a bit overpriced... but there are some good things in there that i've used pretty often. and, if you decided to swithc over to 3.5, there really is very little ocnversion work to be done. one final note, i have seen a few people saying not to buy it, becuase it's going out of print. that's a simply ludicrous argument. 'don't buy it now, because later on, you own't be able to!' it's nonsense. buy it now, BECAUSE it's going out of print. .l. . . .
Neblin of the Green 08-07-03, 08:10 AM	When I bought the book, it was a toss up between Magic of Faerun or the Monsters. I went with monsters, but now when I look back I should have gotten the magic one first. Simply because; as said before all monsters have alternative opions available, or as in CotSQ the monsters are detailed anyway in the appendix. As well as, these days our sessions are more about flavour roleplay than hack-slash. And most of my encounters are other parties of player races. I still feel that is the best encounter, from a challenge point of view and motive. So if I could suggest: Go with a region book or magic of faerun. Like yourself I'm not converting now, I've invested to much money (South African Rands don't go very far) in 3 ed. to switch just yet. Cheers
Bazcasta 08-07-03, 12:22 PM	I think I'll but it. I have invested too much money to just push those books aside and buy new ones. I have the SRD though. I have the FRCS, F&P, RoF, and LoD already, probably buy Monster of Faerun, then Magic of Faerun. How is Magic of Faerun? What's in it I mean.
Tzalice Minoladir 08-07-03, 12:25 PM	I'd buy it just for the firenewt. They're so cute ^.^ I bet they miaow:D sorry
Shade 08-07-03, 12:50 PM	I would hold off until an updated 3.5 version is out. On the other hand, the beholderkin and shadow dragon entries alone are enough to make it worth it. Shade
Herr Doktor 08-07-03, 12:53 PM	People should perhaps read at minimum the first line of the thread starters post... It doesn't matter that they'll be updated and reprinted in new 3.5 material as he is not going to purchase the 3.5 material. Magic of Faerūn is an excellent buy! Lots of spells, magical items, some campaign specific presitge classes (i.e. Harper Mage). It also details some of Faerūn's more powerful magics, like the Mythals, and explains Mage Duels and the like. It's good, and useful. I use it almost as much as I use Lords of Darkness. I need to update the LoD stat-blocks to 3.5 revised edition...
Bazcasta 08-07-03, 02:06 PM	Thanks Herr Doktor, people really should read the first line. More prestige classes ah? :) I'll have to get that book too, damn now I really need a job. <edit> My current character is aspiring to be a Cleric/ Assassin/ Strifleader/ Spur Lord.
GhostBear25FM 08-07-03, 02:26 PM	Man where just givin our opinions,jeese people are so quick to correct someone or point out stuff of this sort.Its not like they got WAAAAAAY off topic ,christ at least we did'nt start talking about driveway pavement or something:rolleyes:
Shade 08-07-03, 02:26 PM	Originally posted by Herr Doktor People should perhaps read at minimum the first line of the thread starters post... No offense, Doktor, but how does the following: I am still playing by 3 Ed. Translate into this: It doesn't matter that they'll be updated and reprinted in new 3.5 material as he is not going to purchase the 3.5 material.. Answer: It doesn't, without assuming that when the poster wrote "I am stil playing 3 Ed." he really meant, "I am still playing 3 Ed. and will not be purchasing 3.5." Just a point of clarification. Now that I understand the original poster: Yes, Monster of Faerun is a very good book. Buy it.
GhostBear25FM 08-07-03, 02:28 PM	Oh and i got the book at EB for like $10 cause page 67 with the Nishruu had a bleach spot on it luckily i pointed it out they gave me a sweet discount.
Herr Doktor 08-07-03, 02:36 PM	Originally posted by Shade Answer: It doesn't, without assuming that when the poster wrote "I am stil playing 3 Ed." he really meant, "I am still playing 3 Ed. and will not be purchasing 3.5." Just a point of clarification. Now that I understand the original poster: Yes, Monster of Faerun is a very good book. Buy it. Excepting that in the next post he says: What is AFAIK? and I still play 3.0 isn't the FR player's guide 3.5? So is it worth my money to buy it, or are the few monsters in it not worth the money? Would it alter my campaign if I had it and used it an average amount or would it not affect it much? thanks Which should've made things pretty clear. Why do you suppose he would mention that he played 3.0 in the first place if it was not actually relevant? Taking context and assuming is absolutely necessary in online communication. The person is not standing before you so you can't read their tones of body language. You have to assume, if you plan on responding.
Shade 08-07-03, 03:03 PM	Originally posted by Herr Doktor Excepting that in the next post he says: Which should've made things pretty clear. Why do you suppose he would mention that he played 3.0 in the first place if it was not actually relevant? To indicate that he hadn't switched to 3.5 yet but was planning on it, that he wondered whether, given that he intended to switch, it would be worthwhile to buy a 3.0 book that might or might not be re-released in 3.5 format. Surely that is just as valid a reading as yours? I'm not trying to start a flame fest (heck, if I want that, I'll frequent usenet), I just thought the tone of your post seemed...a bit self righteous. My apologies if mine came off the same. Shade.
Herr Doktor 08-07-03, 03:07 PM	Yes it did. I likewise apologize, I didn't mean to sound that way either. Only that it had been made clear by now what he intended.
Bazcasta 08-08-03, 09:40 AM	JUST TO CLARIFY THIS, I am NOT SWITCHING TO 3.5 FOR A LONG TIME, IF EVER Thanks for all the help.
saankiip 08-08-03, 09:50 AM	Baz... You should buy FR Monster book - it is excellent!! I have had it since it came out and let me tell you i love it! Just my opinion. saankiip Oh, and as for not ging to 3.5 - I am with you. I will never be going down that dark path.
Bazcasta 08-08-03, 12:10 PM	Okay, I'll buy.. but first i'll get like $5 so I can:D
GoodOlWillickers 08-08-03, 05:57 PM	Yes
Cunning Linguist 08-08-03, 07:48 PM	Monsters of Faerun is long overdue an update. First and foremost I want one for my 3.5 FR, but I also want to get rid of that Xvim lore. There are no more beasts of Xvim, they are beasts of Bane. (it they exist at all now?) And how about those BaneLiches, did Bane start giving out that info again? And how about those Tyrantfogs, since Xvim followers turned them all right, but they hunted Baneliches, should not Baneliches turn then real easy now? Its all small stuff, but I still want it updated.
Reefy 08-08-03, 10:34 PM	Originally posted by Cunning Linguist Monsters of Faerun is long overdue an update. First and foremost I want one for my 3.5 FR, but I also want to get rid of that Xvim lore. There are no more beasts of Xvim, they are beasts of Bane. (it they exist at all now?) And how about those BaneLiches, did Bane start giving out that info again? And how about those Tyrantfogs, since Xvim followers turned them all right, but they hunted Baneliches, should not Baneliches turn then real easy now? Its all small stuff, but I still want it updated. I was wondering about that too, particularly the relations between Bane and the Baneliches.
Kevin Nash 09-27-03, 02:25 AM	I'd buy it just for the firenewt. They're so cute ^.^ I bet they miaow Hands down the coolest monster in the whole book. They ride firebreathing ostriches, what's not to like? I've made entire adventures revolving around them. I custom created them in the NWN computer game for my adventures (simply used Lizardman skin and added firebreathing). I allow my players to play them as well.
Lashan 09-27-03, 09:25 AM	I bought it, but I find I almost never use it. The creatures in it are too specific towards an area or group or too out there. I find I haven't used many of them. I have used Crawling Claws, though.
IIII 09-27-03, 09:51 AM	<b>buy it!</b> i just bought on Amazon (used) for $10.96. took 3 days to get to my house.