Lich questions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Lich questions [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
William Shakespeare
10-01-03, 03:24 PM How does a lich become a lich (references would be great)?

Also, can a someone be forced into becoming a lich?

Thanks for any help.
Faraer
10-01-03, 03:32 PM The lichnee process in the Realms is most fully described in REF5 Lords of Darkness (http://store.yahoo.com/svgames-store/tsr9240esd.html).
The Spellcasting Sorcerer
10-01-03, 04:24 PM A lich must be able to create it phylactery, so the prospective lich needs the Craft Wondrous Item feat, a caster level of at least 11, 120,000 gp, and 4,800 XP to spare (all from the MM).
And no, a being must be willing to become a lich (although I suppose one could be tricked into it as well).
Pandelume
10-02-03, 12:10 PM You can be turned into a Lich against your will.
The Wizard Akhlaur did it two times in the counselors & kings novels.
Cunning Linguist
10-02-03, 01:20 PM MM states: The process of becoming a lich is unspeakable evil and can be undertaken only by a willing character.
Kuje31
10-02-03, 01:34 PM Originally posted by Cunning Linguist
MM states: The process of becoming a lich is unspeakable evil and can be undertaken only by a willing character.

Except then how do you figure in the good elven liches, that are realms specific? And there were also some neutral/good liches who weren't elves in the old material.....
Mr. Wilson
10-02-03, 01:47 PM Yep, good liches exist in the realms, at least according to MoF.
Cunning Linguist
10-02-03, 02:34 PM It was the must be willing part I was trying to point towards..

Good liches must use some other metode then killing small children and virgins to gain there undeadlife..
Faraer
10-02-03, 07:07 PM ...the fullest description of the lichnee process for archliches is the original archlich writeup in SJR1 Lost Ships.
Casting Kobold
10-05-03, 08:52 PM In my campaigns I just have them follow a similar procedure to that of the dracolich in the FRCS. It makes sence to me that becoming a lich should be almost universal - a dragon becoming a lich and a human doing it shouldnt be much different.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
William Shakespeare 10-01-03, 03:24 PM	How does a lich become a lich (references would be great)? Also, can a someone be forced into becoming a lich? Thanks for any help.
Faraer 10-01-03, 03:32 PM	The lichnee process in the Realms is most fully described in REF5 Lords of Darkness (http://store.yahoo.com/svgames-store/tsr9240esd.html).
The Spellcasting Sorcerer 10-01-03, 04:24 PM	A lich must be able to create it phylactery, so the prospective lich needs the Craft Wondrous Item feat, a caster level of at least 11, 120,000 gp, and 4,800 XP to spare (all from the MM). And no, a being must be willing to become a lich (although I suppose one could be tricked into it as well).
Pandelume 10-02-03, 12:10 PM	You can be turned into a Lich against your will. The Wizard Akhlaur did it two times in the counselors & kings novels.
Cunning Linguist 10-02-03, 01:20 PM	MM states: The process of becoming a lich is unspeakable evil and can be undertaken only by a willing character.
Kuje31 10-02-03, 01:34 PM	Originally posted by Cunning Linguist MM states: The process of becoming a lich is unspeakable evil and can be undertaken only by a willing character. Except then how do you figure in the good elven liches, that are realms specific? And there were also some neutral/good liches who weren't elves in the old material.....
Mr. Wilson 10-02-03, 01:47 PM	Yep, good liches exist in the realms, at least according to MoF.
Cunning Linguist 10-02-03, 02:34 PM	It was the must be willing part I was trying to point towards.. Good liches must use some other metode then killing small children and virgins to gain there undeadlife..
Faraer 10-02-03, 07:07 PM	...the fullest description of the lichnee process for archliches is the original archlich writeup in SJR1 Lost Ships.
Casting Kobold 10-05-03, 08:52 PM	In my campaigns I just have them follow a similar procedure to that of the dracolich in the FRCS. It makes sence to me that becoming a lich should be almost universal - a dragon becoming a lich and a human doing it shouldnt be much different.