Names most often misspelled [Archive] - Wizards Community

Names most often misspelled [Archive] - Wizards Community

Post/Author/DateTime Post
Darkmistress
12-17-03, 03:20 AM If I have to see "Elminster" spelled as "Eliminster" or "Elminister" one more time, I'll scream. And apply a blunt object to the guilty's head.
Adrian Moonbow
12-17-03, 03:41 AM What about all the other names misspelled?

Drizzt Do'urden springs to my mind.

Erevis Cale (not Erivis).

I could go on, but my memory is like an orc in Evereska (full of holes!)
Darkmistress
12-17-03, 05:21 AM Indeedy. I can't count the times I see Drizzt's name misspelled. And most often it's the rabid fans that misspell. Bleh.
Darius the Barbarian
12-17-03, 05:46 AM Originally posted by Darkmistress
And most often it's the rabid fans that misspell. Bleh.

... or dedicated haters.

A few other examples: Piergeiron, Vangerdahast, Jarlaxle, Catti-brie.
the_heart
12-17-03, 07:35 AM or the gods, mielikki and eilistraee(heck i'm not even 100% sure i got that right)

or non-names; rogue always gets to me. and being from the UK i still get bugged by color!

i think the question should be, why does it get to us so bad? i mean, we're all aware that the forums are full of 'english as a second language' speakers, and not everyone has the books on hand to double check(and with names, it's not like it's on spell-check!) and lets face it not everyone can be great at spelling!

so why does it bug us?
Darkmistress
12-17-03, 07:48 AM It wouldn't bug me if it were a few mistakes here, a tiny mistake there -- but the fact is, I see Elminster's name misspelled almost all the time. And I assure you, I am no fan of Elminster as a novel character or otherwise.

English is not my native language, by the way. More like second or third language.
the_heart
12-17-03, 08:05 AM Originally posted by Darkmistress

English is not my native language, by the way. More like second or third language. well that could be the basis of a good reason right there. i guess if a person feels that they make the effort why doesn't everyone, especially some that they know are native speakers being lazy (not to actually attribute that as your reasoning, i am merely making a general hypothesis) alternatively a non-native speaker might find themselves more tolerant.

it was just an interesting thought. i find myself getting irritated by bad spelling. and seeing someone else comment, made me wonder why it should bug us. is it just the quantity of errors? or something else?
Crust
12-17-03, 08:51 AM This thread's lifespan will be short, I imagine. Just you wait.

Or, perhaps because of my assumption, the thread will be allowed to live.

We shall see. :rolleyes:
Wooly Rupert
12-17-03, 09:33 AM I try not to let the spelling of others get to me. I know I've misspelled a word or two, though I do try not to.

It is amusing, though, to see rabid fans who can't be bothered to spell names correctly. One post I saw spelled "Drizzt" two different ways in the same post, and neither was correct!
WizO_BigSister
12-17-03, 01:16 PM Surprise, surprise the thread gets to stay alive :D Seriously all you are doing is expressing your general frustration at a problem our boards seem to have. You haven't directed your remarks at any particular posters, and so far the posts have been frustrated but good humoured.

Perhaps this would be more fitted to the MetaBoard but as you are asking for Realms related names I'll leave it here.

If anone posts in defence of the mispellings, keep the debate polite, friendly and interesting. Don't just yell at each other. :sad:

However if posters start to name names, attack any particular person or group of people, or become too provocative then I'll be forced to break out the Scary Stick Of WizO_ing +5 You have been warned!
Kuje31
12-17-03, 01:22 PM The one that is usually hardest for me to spell is Vhaeruen. I can never spell his name right unless I dig out my books and look it up. :( I know I mispelled it again above to prove my point.

This is also why I never got more then a C in spelling or in English. And why I use Word to type up my email replies for my email game. :)
Sirius_Black
12-17-03, 10:19 PM Because of the difficulty many of his fans have in spelling his name, I nominate that Mr. Salvatore's popular dark elf character be called henceforth:

"The artist formerly known as you know who from that drow city that starts with an M."

We can even make up a little symbol for the artist and place it on coffee mugs and sell them at Gencon.

Ah, capitalism......
TinySilverChalice
12-17-03, 11:58 PM Misspelling on the internet is nothing. Asking a panel member at a con and misprouncing a name to the author that created it: that's bad. At least you can blame the former on typos. :D
Mr. Wilson
12-18-03, 12:20 AM Yeah, I actually always said Shannara wrong until Terry Brooks himself gently corrected me.. It was right after First King of Shan.....(it's been forever since I had to spell the book) came out and I asked him to name his favorite character in the series whilst he was signing my books, and he corrected how you say it. He said that many people pronounce it wrong though, and I felt a little better.

However, this is also how I got inivited to be a GM at Origins, so.....
Mr. Wilson
12-18-03, 12:21 AM On topic, I don't mind misspellings mainly because I've been to boards where they mess up even simple things. At least here, the names are slightly harder (not to mention I'm sure I've torched a few myself).
Wooly Rupert
12-18-03, 01:00 AM Originally posted by Mr. Wilson
Yeah, I actually always said Shannara wrong until Terry Brooks himself gently corrected me.. It was right after First King of Shan.....(it's been forever since I had to spell the book) came out and I asked him to name his favorite character in the series whilst he was signing my books, and he corrected how you say it. He said that many people pronounce it wrong though, and I felt a little better.

However, this is also how I got inivited to be a GM at Origins, so.....

So, how is Shannara pronounced? I've always said it "Shan nar uh". Is that correct?
Darkmistress
12-18-03, 06:20 AM Well, it'd be more understandable if the names are complicated -- nay, even unprouncable, which applies to many, many fantasy names -- like "Suldanessellar" (was that one l too many, or s?). But "Drizzt"? It consists of, what, five letters.

Sirius_Black said:

Because of the difficulty many of his fans have in spelling his name, I nominate that Mr. Salvatore's popular dark elf character be called henceforth:

"The artist formerly known as you know who from that drow city that starts with an M."

We can even make up a little symbol for the artist and place it on coffee mugs and sell them at Gencon.

Ah, capitalism......

What about Elminster? "The old lecher who beds everything female, including goddesses, and chain-smokes"? :D
Adrian Moonbow
12-18-03, 08:09 AM Pronunciation is one thing (that is discussed in This thread (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149035) ).:teach:

The problem here is bad spelling. Sometimes it is the difference between reading about a small town or a mighty mage. If the name (misspelled or not) is followed by a small description there is no big problem. But it still bugs me that there are so many people that can't spell (in general)!

Simply call Elminster 'good ol' El!' Works for me. :D

The one that is usually hardest for me to spell is Vhaeruen.

As far as I remember it is Vhaeraun.:angel:

By the way: English is my second language too.
Crust
12-18-03, 09:58 AM Originally posted by Mr. Wilson
Yeah, I actually always said Shannara wrong until Terry Brooks himself gently corrected me.. It was right after First King of Shan.....(it's been forever since I had to spell the book) came out and I asked him to name his favorite character in the series whilst he was signing my books, and he corrected how you say it. He said that many people pronounce it wrong though, and I felt a little better.

However, this is also how I got inivited to be a GM at Origins, so.....

Yeah, I always pronounced it "sha-NAR-ah." How is it pronounced?
Mr.Waesel
12-18-03, 10:47 AM yes, my name is Mr.Waesel! waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel! :mad:

;)
WizO_BigSister
12-18-03, 12:00 PM *polite cough*
This isn't really the place for discussoin prnunication of non-Realms words :)

If you want to talk about pronouncing Realms words then head over to pronunciation (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149035) Thanks Adrian for that link :)

*bad pun alert*
I must confess reading about a skilful, deadly and heroic rouge brings a blush to my cheek :D
Mr. Wilson
12-18-03, 10:26 PM To abide by the gentle Wizo's response, may I suggest those of you who want to know the answer to the above question PM me.

Something on topic again, I'm more amused when people take offense at the bad grammer and such on the boards. Sure, we all wish that we could be perfect, but I gave up that dream a long time ago.

Toodles.:tiphat:
Darkmistress
12-19-03, 03:58 AM There's a difference between "not perfect" and "lazy/not trying", you know.
Another Gnome
12-19-03, 06:46 AM I wonder if I seem an arrogant elitist if I point out I don't need to try to spell Realms names perfectly because I'm not a native English speaker. :D

My native tongue (Finnish) is pronounced as it's spelled, so memorizing the proper spelling naturally comes first and I can think of the pronounciation later. And luckily, there seems to be a trend to use Tolkienish pronounciation for Realms names instead of English, making that part easier as well.

Just a side note, the official pronounciation for Mielikki is far worse than any misspellings around. Calling a goddess "my leaky" is just perverse... :tantrum: :weep:
Ainaelin
12-19-03, 09:47 AM As for the spelling of names, one must remember that many posters here are not English or American, and although they can speak English, they do not necessarily have their books in English.

For instance, I know that the French version of the Realms has different spellings for some gods (Sune becomes Sunie, to try and reproduce the original pronunciation, and I can't remember Mielikki's French spelling but it is different as well).

So blame the translater's job (that emphasizes pronunciation over original spelling) for the bad/different spelling of names, and not always the posters.

That said, there [I]are people who are too lazy or distracted to read and correct what they write. :rolleyes:
Gez
12-19-03, 11:57 AM I vaguely remember someone some years ago who always talked about "forgotten relams". He was the only one I ever saw making this typo, and he made it constantly.

Outside of Elminster and other character, the drow pantheon, whose members come up surprisingly (or not) often on these boards, suffer from typoitis also.

I won't comment on the Lolth/Lloth issue, but Kiaransalee, Vhaeraun, Eilistraee constantly got their names distorted.
Corelon Larethian too (I've seen him named Corilian, for example).

Moradin (Moridin) too.

On the other hand, very simple names (like Bane) are not too often mispelled, and the names of the less popular races/character/gods/etc. are also spared. When was the last time you saw a typo in "Baervan Wildwanderer", for example ?

Of course, the more a word is used, the more likely it is to be mistyped. However, I think there's also another phenomenon. The most enthousiastic fans seem often quite young, in their way of expressing themselves. Things that attract this audience, like elves of all stripe, have to suffer the side effect of exuberant youth, like a certain carefree attitude toward spelling. Also reinforced by the chat-culture.

I know I'm one of the least typo-tolerant messageboarder. I never go to chat rooms. :D

And English is my third language. But I don't have much left of my second. :(
Another Gnome
12-19-03, 01:06 PM Corelon Larethian too (I've seen him named Corilian, for example).

...

I know I'm one of the least typo-tolerant messageboarder.

It's Corellon. :P
The Simbul
12-20-03, 02:18 AM I am sick of being referenced and referred to as the "Symbol"
:hoppingma
Wooly Rupert
12-20-03, 02:40 AM Originally posted by The Simbul
I am sick of being referenced and referred to as the "Symbol"
:hoppingma

You mean you're not Prince? ;)
Ssussunriyh
12-20-03, 02:48 AM Araushnee... you know, Lolth / Lloth's original name.

Angharradh, the three-goddesses-in-one who replaced the above mentioned...

Aerdrie Faenya, Hanali Celanil, Rillifane Rallathil, Shevarash... actually, just about all of the elven deities have funny names that are impossible to spell and even harder to pronounce (for a N'Tel'Quess, that is.)
Sirius_Black
12-20-03, 12:01 PM Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You mean you're not Prince? ;)

Come on Wooly...she prefers to be known as "the artist formerly known as the Simbul." Now she just has to pick out her logo/design and she's all set.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
Darkmistress 12-17-03, 03:20 AM	If I have to see "Elminster" spelled as "Eliminster" or "Elminister" one more time, I'll scream. And apply a blunt object to the guilty's head.
Adrian Moonbow 12-17-03, 03:41 AM	What about all the other names misspelled? Drizzt Do'urden springs to my mind. Erevis Cale (not Erivis). I could go on, but my memory is like an orc in Evereska (full of holes!)
Darkmistress 12-17-03, 05:21 AM	Indeedy. I can't count the times I see Drizzt's name misspelled. And most often it's the rabid fans that misspell. Bleh.
Darius the Barbarian 12-17-03, 05:46 AM	Originally posted by Darkmistress And most often it's the rabid fans that misspell. Bleh. ... or dedicated haters. A few other examples: Piergeiron, Vangerdahast, Jarlaxle, Catti-brie.
the_heart 12-17-03, 07:35 AM	or the gods, mielikki and eilistraee(heck i'm not even 100% sure i got that right) or non-names; rogue always gets to me. and being from the UK i still get bugged by color! i think the question should be, why does it get to us so bad? i mean, we're all aware that the forums are full of 'english as a second language' speakers, and not everyone has the books on hand to double check(and with names, it's not like it's on spell-check!) and lets face it not everyone can be great at spelling! so why does it bug us?
Darkmistress 12-17-03, 07:48 AM	It wouldn't bug me if it were a few mistakes here, a tiny mistake there -- but the fact is, I see Elminster's name misspelled almost all the time. And I assure you, I am no fan of Elminster as a novel character or otherwise. English is not my native language, by the way. More like second or third language.
the_heart 12-17-03, 08:05 AM	Originally posted by Darkmistress English is not my native language, by the way. More like second or third language. well that could be the basis of a good reason right there. i guess if a person feels that they make the effort why doesn't everyone, especially some that they know are native speakers being lazy (not to actually attribute that as your reasoning, i am merely making a general hypothesis) alternatively a non-native speaker might find themselves more tolerant. it was just an interesting thought. i find myself getting irritated by bad spelling. and seeing someone else comment, made me wonder why it should bug us. is it just the quantity of errors? or something else?
Crust 12-17-03, 08:51 AM	This thread's lifespan will be short, I imagine. Just you wait. Or, perhaps because of my assumption, the thread will be allowed to live. We shall see. :rolleyes:
Wooly Rupert 12-17-03, 09:33 AM	I try not to let the spelling of others get to me. I know I've misspelled a word or two, though I do try not to. It is amusing, though, to see rabid fans who can't be bothered to spell names correctly. One post I saw spelled "Drizzt" two different ways in the same post, and neither was correct!
WizO_BigSister 12-17-03, 01:16 PM	Surprise, surprise the thread gets to stay alive :D Seriously all you are doing is expressing your general frustration at a problem our boards seem to have. You haven't directed your remarks at any particular posters, and so far the posts have been frustrated but good humoured. Perhaps this would be more fitted to the MetaBoard but as you are asking for Realms related names I'll leave it here. If anone posts in defence of the mispellings, keep the debate polite, friendly and interesting. Don't just yell at each other. :sad: However if posters start to name names, attack any particular person or group of people, or become too provocative then I'll be forced to break out the Scary Stick Of WizO_ing +5 You have been warned!
Kuje31 12-17-03, 01:22 PM	The one that is usually hardest for me to spell is Vhaeruen. I can never spell his name right unless I dig out my books and look it up. :( I know I mispelled it again above to prove my point. This is also why I never got more then a C in spelling or in English. And why I use Word to type up my email replies for my email game. :)
Sirius_Black 12-17-03, 10:19 PM	Because of the difficulty many of his fans have in spelling his name, I nominate that Mr. Salvatore's popular dark elf character be called henceforth: "The artist formerly known as you know who from that drow city that starts with an M." We can even make up a little symbol for the artist and place it on coffee mugs and sell them at Gencon. Ah, capitalism......
TinySilverChalice 12-17-03, 11:58 PM	Misspelling on the internet is nothing. Asking a panel member at a con and misprouncing a name to the author that created it: that's bad. At least you can blame the former on typos. :D
Mr. Wilson 12-18-03, 12:20 AM	Yeah, I actually always said Shannara wrong until Terry Brooks himself gently corrected me.. It was right after First King of Shan.....(it's been forever since I had to spell the book) came out and I asked him to name his favorite character in the series whilst he was signing my books, and he corrected how you say it. He said that many people pronounce it wrong though, and I felt a little better. However, this is also how I got inivited to be a GM at Origins, so.....
Mr. Wilson 12-18-03, 12:21 AM	On topic, I don't mind misspellings mainly because I've been to boards where they mess up even simple things. At least here, the names are slightly harder (not to mention I'm sure I've torched a few myself).
Wooly Rupert 12-18-03, 01:00 AM	Originally posted by Mr. Wilson Yeah, I actually always said Shannara wrong until Terry Brooks himself gently corrected me.. It was right after First King of Shan.....(it's been forever since I had to spell the book) came out and I asked him to name his favorite character in the series whilst he was signing my books, and he corrected how you say it. He said that many people pronounce it wrong though, and I felt a little better. However, this is also how I got inivited to be a GM at Origins, so..... So, how is Shannara pronounced? I've always said it "Shan nar uh". Is that correct?
Darkmistress 12-18-03, 06:20 AM	Well, it'd be more understandable if the names are complicated -- nay, even unprouncable, which applies to many, many fantasy names -- like "Suldanessellar" (was that one l too many, or s?). But "Drizzt"? It consists of, what, five letters. Sirius_Black said: Because of the difficulty many of his fans have in spelling his name, I nominate that Mr. Salvatore's popular dark elf character be called henceforth: "The artist formerly known as you know who from that drow city that starts with an M." We can even make up a little symbol for the artist and place it on coffee mugs and sell them at Gencon. Ah, capitalism...... What about Elminster? "The old lecher who beds everything female, including goddesses, and chain-smokes"? :D
Adrian Moonbow 12-18-03, 08:09 AM	Pronunciation is one thing (that is discussed in This thread (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149035) ).:teach: The problem here is bad spelling. Sometimes it is the difference between reading about a small town or a mighty mage. If the name (misspelled or not) is followed by a small description there is no big problem. But it still bugs me that there are so many people that can't spell (in general)! Simply call Elminster 'good ol' El!' Works for me. :D The one that is usually hardest for me to spell is Vhaeruen. As far as I remember it is Vhaeraun.:angel: By the way: English is my second language too.
Crust 12-18-03, 09:58 AM	Originally posted by Mr. Wilson Yeah, I actually always said Shannara wrong until Terry Brooks himself gently corrected me.. It was right after First King of Shan.....(it's been forever since I had to spell the book) came out and I asked him to name his favorite character in the series whilst he was signing my books, and he corrected how you say it. He said that many people pronounce it wrong though, and I felt a little better. However, this is also how I got inivited to be a GM at Origins, so..... Yeah, I always pronounced it "sha-NAR-ah." How is it pronounced?
Mr.Waesel 12-18-03, 10:47 AM	yes, my name is Mr.Waesel! waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel waesel! :mad: ;)
WizO_BigSister 12-18-03, 12:00 PM	polite cough This isn't really the place for discussoin prnunication of non-Realms words :) If you want to talk about pronouncing Realms words then head over to pronunciation (http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149035) Thanks Adrian for that link :) bad pun alert I must confess reading about a skilful, deadly and heroic rouge brings a blush to my cheek :D
Mr. Wilson 12-18-03, 10:26 PM	To abide by the gentle Wizo's response, may I suggest those of you who want to know the answer to the above question PM me. Something on topic again, I'm more amused when people take offense at the bad grammer and such on the boards. Sure, we all wish that we could be perfect, but I gave up that dream a long time ago. Toodles.:tiphat:
Darkmistress 12-19-03, 03:58 AM	There's a difference between "not perfect" and "lazy/not trying", you know.
Another Gnome 12-19-03, 06:46 AM	I wonder if I seem an arrogant elitist if I point out I don't need to try to spell Realms names perfectly because I'm not a native English speaker. :D My native tongue (Finnish) is pronounced as it's spelled, so memorizing the proper spelling naturally comes first and I can think of the pronounciation later. And luckily, there seems to be a trend to use Tolkienish pronounciation for Realms names instead of English, making that part easier as well. Just a side note, the official pronounciation for Mielikki is far worse than any misspellings around. Calling a goddess "my leaky" is just perverse... :tantrum: :weep:
Ainaelin 12-19-03, 09:47 AM	As for the spelling of names, one must remember that many posters here are not English or American, and although they can speak English, they do not necessarily have their books in English. For instance, I know that the French version of the Realms has different spellings for some gods (Sune becomes Sunie, to try and reproduce the original pronunciation, and I can't remember Mielikki's French spelling but it is different as well). So blame the translater's job (that emphasizes pronunciation over original spelling) for the bad/different spelling of names, and not always the posters. That said, there [I]are people who are too lazy or distracted to read and correct what they write. :rolleyes:
Gez 12-19-03, 11:57 AM	I vaguely remember someone some years ago who always talked about "forgotten relams". He was the only one I ever saw making this typo, and he made it constantly. Outside of Elminster and other character, the drow pantheon, whose members come up surprisingly (or not) often on these boards, suffer from typoitis also. I won't comment on the Lolth/Lloth issue, but Kiaransalee, Vhaeraun, Eilistraee constantly got their names distorted. Corelon Larethian too (I've seen him named Corilian, for example). Moradin (Moridin) too. On the other hand, very simple names (like Bane) are not too often mispelled, and the names of the less popular races/character/gods/etc. are also spared. When was the last time you saw a typo in "Baervan Wildwanderer", for example ? Of course, the more a word is used, the more likely it is to be mistyped. However, I think there's also another phenomenon. The most enthousiastic fans seem often quite young, in their way of expressing themselves. Things that attract this audience, like elves of all stripe, have to suffer the side effect of exuberant youth, like a certain carefree attitude toward spelling. Also reinforced by the chat-culture. I know I'm one of the least typo-tolerant messageboarder. I never go to chat rooms. :D And English is my third language. But I don't have much left of my second. :(
Another Gnome 12-19-03, 01:06 PM	Corelon Larethian too (I've seen him named Corilian, for example). ... I know I'm one of the least typo-tolerant messageboarder. It's Corellon. :P
The Simbul 12-20-03, 02:18 AM	I am sick of being referenced and referred to as the "Symbol" :hoppingma
Wooly Rupert 12-20-03, 02:40 AM	Originally posted by The Simbul I am sick of being referenced and referred to as the "Symbol" :hoppingma You mean you're not Prince? ;)
Ssussunriyh 12-20-03, 02:48 AM	Araushnee... you know, Lolth / Lloth's original name. Angharradh, the three-goddesses-in-one who replaced the above mentioned... Aerdrie Faenya, Hanali Celanil, Rillifane Rallathil, Shevarash... actually, just about all of the elven deities have funny names that are impossible to spell and even harder to pronounce (for a N'Tel'Quess, that is.)
Sirius_Black 12-20-03, 12:01 PM	Originally posted by Wooly Rupert You mean you're not Prince? ;) Come on Wooly...she prefers to be known as "the artist formerly known as the Simbul." Now she just has to pick out her logo/design and she's all set.