Quicken spell w/ spontaneous casters?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

Quicken spell w/ spontaneous casters?? [Archive] - Wizards Community

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Bazcasta
10-24-03, 03:58 PM Since using a meta-magic feat w/ a spontaneous caster takes a full round action, if the spell is a one action... So if a bard, for example, wanted to cast a quickened <insert bar spell here>... what would happen, would it take a normal free action, like for a wizard who prepared it or would it take a full round action, or a standard action??

Thanks... i hope you understand whatim trying to say.:confused:
cwslyclgh
10-24-03, 04:28 PM spontaneous casters can not use the quicken spell feat... (well they can, but it still takes a full round action, so you just wasted a spell slot 4 levels higher for nothing).

however theere is a feat called arcane preparation which lets a spontaneous caster prepare a spell ahead of time (like a wizard does), spells prepared in this way do not take extra time to cast when metamagic is applied, and thus can be quickened as normal.

hope that helps :)
Witchdoctor
10-24-03, 09:10 PM The bard in your example will require using a full round action to cast the spell.
Gez
10-25-03, 12:33 PM I had a house-rule that a sorcerer (or bard, warmage, shugenja, etc, etc.) was able to keep one (and only one) metamagic spell "charged", like with melee touch attack spells and holding the charge. Next spell they would cast would be this one (trying to cast another would have wasted the charged spell), but it was possible to hold a metamagic spell up to 1 hour/level.

You first casted the spell normally (with the metamagic casting time penalty), and declared it charged. It wasn't cast; and when you wanted to actually unleash it, you simply "casted it" again, this time without the metamagic penalty, allowing to use Quicken Spell this way.

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Bazcasta 10-24-03, 03:58 PM	Since using a meta-magic feat w/ a spontaneous caster takes a full round action, if the spell is a one action... So if a bard, for example, wanted to cast a quickened <insert bar spell here>... what would happen, would it take a normal free action, like for a wizard who prepared it or would it take a full round action, or a standard action?? Thanks... i hope you understand whatim trying to say.:confused:
cwslyclgh 10-24-03, 04:28 PM	spontaneous casters can not use the quicken spell feat... (well they can, but it still takes a full round action, so you just wasted a spell slot 4 levels higher for nothing). however theere is a feat called arcane preparation which lets a spontaneous caster prepare a spell ahead of time (like a wizard does), spells prepared in this way do not take extra time to cast when metamagic is applied, and thus can be quickened as normal. hope that helps :)
Witchdoctor 10-24-03, 09:10 PM	The bard in your example will require using a full round action to cast the spell.
Gez 10-25-03, 12:33 PM	I had a house-rule that a sorcerer (or bard, warmage, shugenja, etc, etc.) was able to keep one (and only one) metamagic spell "charged", like with melee touch attack spells and holding the charge. Next spell they would cast would be this one (trying to cast another would have wasted the charged spell), but it was possible to hold a metamagic spell up to 1 hour/level. You first casted the spell normally (with the metamagic casting time penalty), and declared it charged. It wasn't cast; and when you wanted to actually unleash it, you simply "casted it" again, this time without the metamagic penalty, allowing to use Quicken Spell this way.